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scans_daily2016-03-11 09:33 pm
deh_tommy) wrote in scans_daily2016-03-11 09:33 pm
Kind of surprising, these strips are more silly than anything else.
I'm not going to lie; I think Sinfest took a small dive in quality upon the usage of the Sisterhood and Monique's sudden personality change. I think the strip's gotten a bit better, but I'm still uncomfortable whenever focus is brought on the 'Patriarchy', or how no one should be allowed to be sexual because they're just supporting/being brainwashed/exploited by said Evil Patriarchy (because no woman in her right mind actually wants sex or to feel sexy, since doing so means you're allowing yourself to be exploited by the Patriarchy/part of the problem).
I suppose... this is just a bit mean spirited, I think? I mean, the comic's called 'Sinfest' and has dealt with many offensive themes in the past, but there was a sense of jest and silliness. Due to the excess amount of focus and strips focused on this war for feminism, I feel like I'm actually supposed to believe in how men are inherently bad and prey on the innocent women. I don't appreciate reading something like how anyone whom doesn't like new Sinfest is a sexist 'Dudebro'. If anything, I agree with Slick in the last panels - be a bit more subtle with the comic's preachings, otherwise you just alienate some potential readers.
I do like reading about the Pig (whose name I can't remember at this point in time), or Seymour, the two Angels, the little romance between Fuschia and Criminy and the recent Fembot storyline, though. However, I don't really enjoy wallowing through the pieces where the Sisterhood perform terrorist acts in the name of Female superiority, or how any criticisms are just shot down through strawmen arguments.
Would this count as freaking out?
I suppose... this is just a bit mean spirited, I think? I mean, the comic's called 'Sinfest' and has dealt with many offensive themes in the past, but there was a sense of jest and silliness. Due to the excess amount of focus and strips focused on this war for feminism, I feel like I'm actually supposed to believe in how men are inherently bad and prey on the innocent women. I don't appreciate reading something like how anyone whom doesn't like new Sinfest is a sexist 'Dudebro'. If anything, I agree with Slick in the last panels - be a bit more subtle with the comic's preachings, otherwise you just alienate some potential readers.
I do like reading about the Pig (whose name I can't remember at this point in time), or Seymour, the two Angels, the little romance between Fuschia and Criminy and the recent Fembot storyline, though. However, I don't really enjoy wallowing through the pieces where the Sisterhood perform terrorist acts in the name of Female superiority, or how any criticisms are just shot down through strawmen arguments.
Would this count as freaking out?
Some aren't showing up for me either but they're all Imgur so IDK.
See, i don't think she should be more "subtle" and i disagree with Slick in that. However, the strip doesn't actually say WHY Slick is wrong, IE that anything you say that makes them feel uncomfortable about their views will be viewed as "in your face" and, when you make it "subtle enough", they will not get the point. (In other words "preach your views in a way that does not, in any way shape or form, affect ME or makes ME uncomfortable. and since what you want to acomplish WILL affect me, that means you should not preach".) He just IS.
On top of that, there is the whole "Slick Devil" subplot that i just HATE because to me is yet another "he is not REAAAAALLY responsible for his actions" cliche that, ultimately, erases any sense of responsability from the audience.
On top of that, there is the whole "Slick Devil" subplot that i just HATE because to me is yet another "he is not REAAAAALLY responsible for his actions" cliche that, ultimately, erases any sense of responsability from the audience.
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doctor_spanky
2016-03-12 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely don't think they should be more subtle with the comic's preachings (even the ones I don't agree with or think are kinda silly). You kinda have to be honest when you're that angry
Also the art is really clean and good and all the sex-shaming in this comic makes me pretty uncomfortable
Also the art is really clean and good and all the sex-shaming in this comic makes me pretty uncomfortable
It's a bit irrational and unfair of me, I freely admit, but I do tend to automatically get a bit skeptical and cynical when I see men taking on and espousing radical feminist positions like this. It always seems to smack a little of insincerity and / or trying a bit too hard.
But those Sunday strips....ohhh, those Sunday strips.
They are quite beautiful, and getting more and more so.
Just for their art, they're worth gazing at.
My opinions on Sinfest in it's current state is basically this http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Sinfest . This article states what I feel better than I ever could.
This. I love the art. I loved what Sinfest was about - poking fun at all sorts of topics but never siding with any. This change was....well, it turned me off to the comic once I came back to it and found it to be preachy & throwing shit in your face and no longer really much fun.
I'm a feminist and I don't disagree with most of the sentiments expressed, but this is just preachy and dull and simplistic. It's a pity, as I do like the clean and expressive art.
Used to read this back in the Old Times(tm). Lost track of it for a while, came back, found that apparently, because I have a penis I'm an evil monster whose only goal in life is to oppress women. Didn't enjoy it any more, moved on.
See, i don't fully agree with some of the things the article says. In particular with calling "Feminism" a "hobby" (unless they mean Ishida thinks it's a hobby). Pre and Post feminism Sinfest are complete opposite? no shit sherlock. it's almost like a 15 years-long webcomic would change overtime!
The use of the "Why shouldn't I hate my oppressor?", for example, is actually a decent comic.
But then you have stuff like "pornography is evil" or Ishida mocking third-wave feminism or the whole "The Patriarchy is The Matrix" which feels like a parody of feminism to me.
The use of the "Why shouldn't I hate my oppressor?", for example, is actually a decent comic.
But then you have stuff like "pornography is evil" or Ishida mocking third-wave feminism or the whole "The Patriarchy is The Matrix" which feels like a parody of feminism to me.
Sometimes, someone reviews or even just mentions a webcomic that I haven't looked at in a long time, and I have a look-see, and am kind of relieved that I haven't really missed anything. It's especially remarkable when the comic takes a political or social pose that I'm normally sympathetic with, but has such a shallow take on it that I'd rather that they hadn't tried in the first place.
This. I generally think of misandry as not really being a *thing*, but then I look at Sinfest...
I feel the restraining order on Charlie Brown is a little harsh, he never stalked the little red headed girl, he just noticed her when she was in the area.
It feels almost like he's going for a reverse-psychology thing here and wants people to actively dislike and mistrust feminism.
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