Date: 2017-02-04 06:38 pm (UTC)
squirle: (Default)
From: [personal profile] squirle
This was surprisingly powerful. I love the use of splash pages, and that scene where you keep flashing from Reed to the screen saying "erase" is really well done!

Date: 2017-02-05 02:02 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, that library overhead shot is like a dictionary definition of what comics can do, plus it also tells you about his mental state, and the contrasting panels are amazing.

Date: 2017-02-04 06:38 pm (UTC)
every_spiegel: (darkness)
From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
Erm, a childbirth? And the child died too?
This What-if is both depressing and meaningless (bordering on stupid, really).

Date: 2017-02-04 06:54 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Depressing, yes. Meaningless, no.
The back story on this is that the cosmic radiation which empowered the FF was endangering Sue during her first pregnancy with Franklin. To save mother and child, they needed Annihilus' cosmic control rod. In this what if, he put up enough of a fight that they were too late. So it's a valid departure from the normal timeline and one of the more emotionally deep stories.

This was one of the earliest What Ifs I read, IIRC, and it's always stuck with me, especially Reed's self-destructive spiral.

Date: 2017-02-04 07:00 pm (UTC)
every_spiegel: (DOOM)
From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
I call it angst for the sake of angst, you can call it deep and emotional, let's just agree to disagree.

Date: 2017-02-05 06:16 am (UTC)
laughing_tree: (Default)
From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
No, the child lived.

Date: 2017-02-05 02:09 pm (UTC)
every_spiegel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
Now, really, wait, WHAT.
The child lived? Their precious child lived? Sue's child? Sue and Reed's child? And his life is f***ing OVER? He whines and runs to be killed when he has a child? I am... I am sorry, this seems so irresponsible and weak it's infuriating (and I am a childfree, even). This issue just crossed the border of stupidity.

Date: 2017-02-04 07:34 pm (UTC)
zylly: (Dragon Man)
From: [personal profile] zylly
An extraordinarily powerful issue. Who wrote this one?

Date: 2017-02-05 12:06 am (UTC)
zylly: (Hypothetical Situation)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Thank you. I've read some of his stuff (this issue included), but it's not usually as powerful as this was.

Date: 2017-02-05 01:23 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Peter Parker and his baby daughter (Spiderdaddy)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Hey, same guy who did the 'what if Spider-man saved his uncle' one.

Date: 2017-02-04 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
This feels genunely raw in a way that a lot of depictions of grief isn't. Genuinely sad.

Date: 2017-02-04 10:39 pm (UTC)
razsolo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] razsolo
Agreed...Johnny's eulogy really got to me as did Ben's monologue when he was in his room alone. I wonder if it's partially from seeing it as the FF from that particular era, before we got to a point where characters routinely die and come back within issues? I mean if Sue were to die nowadays I'd be very surprised if it stuck but in the 60s a story like that would actually keep the character dead (long enough for it to resonate as a proper death anyway)

Date: 2017-02-04 10:54 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (batman--robin (no!!!))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
You're right, death in comics back then was either permanent or took quite awhile before resurrection. Now it's just, "X is dead? He/She'll be back before the body's cold!"

Date: 2017-02-05 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I think it's how they all react differently, but they're all familiar forms of grieving, and despite the slightly overwrought comic-book dialogue, it still feels genuine.

Date: 2017-02-05 01:48 am (UTC)
razsolo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] razsolo
Yeah for sure...Johnny's reaction to his mum dying and now Due on top of that is very relatable

Date: 2017-02-05 01:49 am (UTC)
razsolo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] razsolo
Actually I really like Ben & Namor's relationship here too

Date: 2017-02-05 01:58 am (UTC)
kore: (Janet van Dyne (Wasp))
From: [personal profile] kore
Thanks for doing all the What Ifs, I have a real soft spot for them.

Date: 2017-02-05 03:23 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Great story... but the cover looks like Reed is doing his the best Kermit the Frog impression.
Edited Date: 2017-02-05 03:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-05 06:16 am (UTC)
laughing_tree: (Default)
From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
Gillis said he got a ton of letters from fans about this issue. It really seemed to have struck a chord.


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