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Okay, this'll take some explaining.

This was the first time What If did multiple stories, and they did so here in an unusual way: while each story is separate, there's an epilogue which apparently happened in each one.



First up, we have Flash Thompson pre-character development get bit.



Flash discovers his strength, so he decides to test it out by wrestling Crusher Hogan. However, he's too reckless with his strength, and accidentally breaks Crusher's neck. The cops try to arrest him, leading to Flash discovering his other powers as he escapes. Flash, desiring to redeem himself for accidental murder and avoid the cops at the same time, decides to become a super hero.



Unfortunately, Captain Spider's hero career is short lived, as without Peter's scientific prowess he never develops webbing, which causes him to fall to his death during his first battle with the Vulture.



In this next universe, JJJ and Betty Brant are present during the display for the Bugle, leading to Betty getting bit. Peter walks out with her to get some air, and they soon discover her powers.









Okay, next up is John Jameson, who came to the demonstration visiting a professor he was friendly with. After he gets bit, John initially wants to use his powers in the space program, but Jonah discovers it and encourages him to become a super hero instead. Jonah then comes up with a costume and a name: SPIDER JAMESON, THE SUPER-ASTRONAUT!



Then one day, as Peter Parker begs Jonah for a job, the shuttle that would've carried John begins to malfunction. Jonah eggs on John to save them, and John, aware that he would've been up there if not for being a super-hero, flies off.

Unfortunately, as he redirects the capsule, he uses too much fuel too fast and runs out of fuel in his jetpack.





Oh, and remember that epilogue I mentioned?





"Oh, well, there is that one Earth where Gwen Stacy got bitten, but I'm sure no one would be interested in that one. FOR I AM THE WATCHER!"

Date: 2017-02-06 02:19 am (UTC)
veleda_k: Stock picture of a book with my screen name (Default)
From: [personal profile] veleda_k
Given how many people have now been bitten by that radioactive spider, and the concept of Spider-Verse, this What If really speaks to a simpler time.

Date: 2017-02-06 09:21 pm (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
You mean before franchises were so terribly watered down by seemingly redundant characters (And it's not just Marvel. I'm looking at you, Bat family.)? Yeah. :(

Date: 2017-02-08 01:43 am (UTC)
lamashtar: The Great Hal Jordan (awesome)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
I suppose its bad when there's more of a particular flavor hero than the Green Lantern Corps. There's a conversation to be had about whether its good to gain diversity and the possibilities of family based storylines that make up for the watering down.

Date: 2017-02-06 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Actually kind of amazed they got away with Betty's outfit being that revealing in the 70s...
You'd think maybe she'd want something more practical. An outfit that exposes that much skin couldn't have been much fun in winter. Or just New York on a regular day... never mind someone working out who she is just from seeing her walking down the street, in costume, with Peter...

The Flash one is kind of upsetting, given all the comics showing the sort of person he'd become after a little character development (and before He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named backslid on it).

And in the timeline where John Jameson died, who flew Cap's jet in the Bloodstone saga? How did Cap and Diamondback get around? These are the questions that matter, Uatu!

And none of this "it's destiny" stuff, Uatu. Next you'll be going on about totems and giant spiders and such, and then incredibly boring vampire-like beings will start showing up...

Date: 2017-02-06 04:48 am (UTC)
philippos42: "Dark Vengeance!" (cold)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
Revealing outfits were big in the 1970's, and not just in comic books.

Date: 2017-02-06 07:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
I really don't care for Betty's outfit - not because it's revealing, but because it completely clashes with Betty's shy, retiring nature. That's not the outfit of a woman too meek to throw a punch.

Plus, we missed seeing Peter try on her discarded clothes, which is a true waste.

Date: 2017-02-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katefan
"Plus, we missed seeing Peter try on her discarded clothes, which is a true waste."

lol!

You have an excellent point there; Betty's outfit should have been more or less a direct female version of Peter's original costume...with a purse. ;)

Date: 2017-02-08 01:45 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Spider-man confronts naked Jesus (Spiderman and naked Jesus)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
She did mention the mask let her be more daring! Classic internet trope.

Date: 2017-02-06 03:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skjam
This would be a good starter for a fanfic comparing the things that come next in each world; while they converge on Peter Parker becoming Spider-Man, they'd quickly diverge afterwards.

And since in these cases Cindy Moon and that bully from "The Thousand" didn't get affected by the radioactive spider and disappear shortly thereafter, they can be in the stories too. (And maybe young, shy and hopelessly naive Jessica Jones.)

Date: 2017-02-06 08:17 pm (UTC)
skjam: Man in blue suit and fedora, wearing an eyeless mask emblazoned with the scales of justice (Default)
From: [personal profile] skjam
I'm thinking he might fill the ecological niche left by Flash Thompson (pre character development) in the world where Flash is on the run for murder.

Date: 2017-02-06 05:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
How in the hell do you blow a 25 point lead 😠😠😠😠...sorry couldn't wait until Tuesday

Date: 2017-02-06 05:40 am (UTC)
byc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] byc
This What-If almost is gleeful at the various Spider-People just failing.

Date: 2017-02-08 01:46 am (UTC)
lamashtar: "Wolverine does not appear in this issue" (Wolverine not appearing in this issue)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
The hero can't be The Hero if anyone can be the hero.

Date: 2017-02-06 06:05 am (UTC)
ozaline: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ozaline
So did this Spider-Girl appear in the Spider-Verse at all?

Date: 2017-02-06 08:32 pm (UTC)
yvonmukluk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yvonmukluk
I think all three did.

I think Flash died (again).

Date: 2017-02-07 02:56 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Ooh, time paradox!

Date: 2017-02-06 07:10 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
May I request "What if Peter Parker had to destroy Spider-Man?" after this one? The endings would be great to compare and contrast.

Date: 2017-02-06 10:31 am (UTC)
alicemacher: Lisa Winklemeyer from the webcomic Penny and Aggie, c2004-2011 G. Lagacé, T Campbell (Default)
From: [personal profile] alicemacher
Flash accidentally and recklessly killing someone with his super-strength, before he'd even gotten started as a hero, intrigues me because it's an early example of deconstructing the superhero. Specifically, asking what might happen in real life if people gained supernormal physical abilities, especially before they were mature enough to use them responsibly. (Compare and contrast Moore's take, years later, on Johnny "Kid Miracleman" Bates.)

Date: 2017-02-07 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
If you want an early example of deconstructing the superhero, are you familiar with Gladiator?

Date: 2017-02-08 01:49 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Jesus Troll (jesustroll)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Less Kid Miracle and more mutant manifestation, to me. Though yeah, usually someone getting hurt was a clue they'd go villain before all heroes became anti-heroes.

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