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FANGORIA: What was the genesis of MARSHAL LAW?

PAT MILLS: [MARSHAL LAW artist] Kevin O’Neill came up with this amazing looking future cop and we then searched for a story for him. Initially we trod the MAD MAX road. Then, I had a plot about future crime in a TOUCH OF EVIL world. We sold this to Marvel. But then I felt that the guy really was some kind of superhero and the story should reflect this. But I hated superheroes! So I thought: What about making him a superhero hunter, where I could vent my spleen on them, a story I am supremely qualified to write. I tentatively suggested this to Kevin who added a future war context and we were away. So Marvel didn’t actually get the character they commissioned, but rather the same story with a whole new dimension. I’m not sure they were altogether happy about that, although they never said anything.

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Date: 2017-02-09 11:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I've thought about posting this. While a lot of it is dated, the idea is sound: "The US government created a bunch of superheroes, they won a war in South America, then came back home and formed various gangs in the ruins of Los Angeles. And some of the 'non-crazy ones' are tasked with policing them."

It's almost like a 1980s "dry run" of Alan Moore's TOP TEN. With lots of "Superheroes are bad and you should feel bad."

Date: 2017-02-09 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
I also feel like Kingdom Come may have taken some cues from the setting. And that book also has a "modern grim superheroes are bad and you should feel bad" premise.

Date: 2017-02-09 11:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] angry_marmot
I thought of Top Ten as Hill Street Blues with super heroes. This, not so much. The characters and the panels in Top Ten are multi-layered, with lots of smiles and a few heartbreaks (like the origin of the palm print on Smaxx's chest). This, not so much.

Date: 2017-02-10 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
I've heard this decried as a shit-talking aginast superheroes before, but I dunno. What I'm seeing here is pretty clearly a satire of the ideological underpinnings of superheroes, violently jingoistic American culture of the 80s, and it's relationship with the monopoly of force and rule of law. I'm not going to claim it's Watchmen tier brilliant, but I'd argue this kind of satire is exactly what the 80s deserved.

I mean, we're pretty clearly heading into a period of history deserving of brutal, nihilistic satire ourselves.

Date: 2017-02-10 06:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
It feels almost like a parody of Stallone's Cobra, to me, with that film's 'procedure and 'soft' approaches don't get results, blowing people away does' ideology.. Even though the film had to concoct an evil conspiracy and serial killer to justify the rampages of it's hero.

Date: 2017-02-10 02:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
I still have this in my collection somewhere...I remember it not being that great at the time. Time has not been kind to it in some ways, but it's better than I remembered in others. Part of it is that a lot of the content felt very 'Look! This is published by Epic! We can do violence and talk about fucking!' The whole 'Marshall Law is actually mild-mannered not-Clark Kent' was one of the most cringeworthy parts. His girlfriend hating Superhero hunters even as they lived in a post-apocalyptic Hell was confusing.

A lot of it felt very gratuitous and as subtle as a punch to the face.

Date: 2017-02-10 06:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Really, the appeal for me is O'Neill's art. He was one of my favourite artists having done LOEG, so reading this a few years back was a plus because of that, but.. Yeah. It's clearly parody, but.. As the legion of shitty comedies in the past few years with the 'Movie' suffix attached have shown, being a parody doesn't automatically make it good.

Date: 2017-02-10 04:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
I'm so done with comic book writers hating superheroes. It's just their way of saying, "Look, I write comic books, but it isn't about guys in tights and capes! I write real serious stuff, honest! I hate superheroes! Really!"

Date: 2017-02-10 04:47 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
I just wish writers who didn't like superheroes wouldn't write them.

Date: 2017-02-10 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12


Date: 2017-02-10 06:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
This doesn't really do anything for me any more, but the final bit in the superhero psych ward escape made an impression on my younger self. At least it's one of the few things I actually remember of the comic as whole.

Well, the ending to the Mask crossover was kinda snicker inducing.


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