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"I spent about 10 minutes in the pub last night obsessed with the opening of THE WILD STORM by Ellis/Davis-Hunt. The main cover. Lots to unpack, but the element I most admire is the explicit 1-24, showing the length of series. Immediately we have context, meaning, shape and all linking to the cool formalism - as in, chilled. The Watchmen of it.

"And then the first page, which is instant classic as far as I'm concerned. Once again, this is a novel opening, about control and confidence. 9 panel is murderously hard, and - if I had to generalise - artists generally hate it. Davis-Hunt is making it sing here. Tom King with his various collaborators have been bringing it back to centre stage in comics, recently. THE WILD STORM is a similar response to the present over-tired elements in the super-hero mainstream. Let us try control. Let us try comics.

"[...] Generally speaking, the problem facing any writer of superhero comics is finding a way to make this genre feel novel in 2017. I think The Wild Storm nails in." - Kieron Gillen

Date: 2017-03-24 05:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
"Let us try comics."

That's a sentiment a lot of fans would get behind, I imagine. Unfortunately, for many of them, "comics" means "receptacles for my nostalgia" and "let us try comics" is "make them more like the good ol' days, when we had *proper* comics." Rather than "let's experiment with the medium's boundaries," as is Gillen's gist. They mean stagnation and stylistic conservatism. They mean the polar opposite of what Gillen means.

Because god forbid they enjoy something outside they're carefully fenced comfort zones.

Date: 2017-04-15 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I may be totally missing your point but...

the hidden heroes and secret conspiracies are nothing new these days. And honestly I think the reason why superheroes became the dominant part of comics is because they were the only thing that comics did better than anything else.

It's why horror comics didn't have a massive comeback when the Code was loosened and abandoned. You had a boatload more options to see that stuff by that time.

So without a need to see it your audience for this sort of experimental nature is limited

Date: 2017-03-24 08:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Does Warren Ellis know that "UnSub" is only used in tv shows?

Date: 2017-03-24 09:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] captainbellman
Another aspect of it is that Davis-Hunt's work as I've seen it thus far (in "Clean Room") has been focused on trippy pages with a lot of open negative space, intricately-detailed tableaus and full-body figures. Which is naturally a function of Gail Simone, whose work lately has featured a lot of that.

The very experience of seeing him limited to the tight boxed-in 9-panel format - which Ellis knows intimately - is unsettling right out of the gate. Like putting a tiger in a maze.

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Date: 2017-03-24 10:12 am (UTC)
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Date: 2017-03-24 11:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
So this is what, Ellis doing for the Wild Storm universe what he did for the New Universe? I don't have a problem with it, I'm just curious where we're going, here. This reminds me of Ellis work that I'm more fond of, like Freak Angels, for example.

Date: 2017-03-24 02:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Pretty much. Much like newuniversal, it's on its own universe, with occasional hints at being part of the DC multiverse.

Date: 2017-03-24 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
I'm waiting for the big reveal that this new version of the Wildstorm universe was caused by the original Planetary team who have finally returned after heading off into the Bleed.

And hopefully unlike newuniversal (which I really enjoyed for as far as it got), it won't get massive chunks of the scripts deleted by accident.
Edited Date: 2017-03-24 04:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-03-24 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
-hopefully unlike newuniversal [...] it won't get massive chunks of the script deleted by accident-

That story was always suspect as hell. If Warren Ellis couldn't recall what he'd planned, he could've just winged it.

(Still massively bitter about Newuniversal after all these years...)

Date: 2017-03-26 10:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
To be fair, the same seemed to happen to Desolation Jones. Given the amount of projects he had at that time, I just have to imagine he considered it somewhat insurmountable and just called it a day.


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