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Apr. 8th, 2017 12:39 am
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"The sound bite is ‘what if the most dangerous guy on the planet was the guy trying to do the most good?’ If you watch CNN, Fox and MSNBC, you can get cynical about the world. I’m bringing the cynicism forward that if J.C. himself came down tomorrow, could he survive with the media we have, and the people going ‘he’s supposed to have longer hair,’ and ‘I thought he was 6 feet tall?’

We’re cynical and instead of just embracing what’s in front of us and saying it’s possible, I think he would become a) the enemy of people because he happened to appear in America, so our enemies are going ‘hold on a sec, are they making super soldiers? They can make 10,000 of this guy?’ And b) the other side who should be endorsing him are going to be going ‘this dude isn’t good for business,’ and the business is organized religion because he’s not doing it by the playbook. ‘He’s kinda there, he’s just not all the way there. And if he convinces people that he’s right and we’re wrong, our business model goes to hell in a handbasket.’"

- Todd McFarlane

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Date: 2017-04-08 03:22 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Is Todd McFarlane usually this deep?

Date: 2017-04-09 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
He tried to be with Spawn, if I recall correctly.

Date: 2017-04-09 07:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
The early issues were definitely trying to be that, with Al's reasoning for accepting the Malebolgia's bargain being fairly interesting. The only problem was that the series was rooted in early 90's kewl with the big guns and anti-heroism stuff that any depth just became bland handwringing that would never go anywhere.

It took other writers - like once the book had reached around the 150's or so - for Spawn to really develop. Up to the point the book went to the Apocalypse and actually got ambitious for a change, it just seemed to tread water with the Heaven/Hell stuff and things that should have been significant - Al giving the finger to the Clown finally, Angela and the Malebolgia being killed - just seemed like blips on a ride going nowhere.

I mean, in hindsight it's probably still the best of the Image founders stuff, but I'm not sure how much that can be attributed to stuff like say, McFarlane tapping Greg Capullo for pencils and setting him up for his later a-game stuff on Batman.

Date: 2017-04-09 11:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
Wait, did you read the whole series? Asking because I don't know anyone who read into the really high numbers.

Date: 2017-04-09 12:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Most, if not all; I wasn't a big reader at the time because I was a kid, so there are spots I'm missing out on, but most of it. The Billy Kincaid ghost-comeback story, the return of the Freak, the incredibly dull vampire (I think?) plotline.. Again, most of it was.. Not great. I remember getting really interested again around the point they separated Spawn off from Al and brought Nyx in, who.. Standard young-witch character, but I really liked her.

And it really kicked into high gear once they finally did the Apocalypse story; the 'new world' stuff after was great, too, but I basically fell off the wagon after Todd booted out the creative team who had made the character actually epic and horror-flavoured, in favour of... Big guns, new guy in the costume. Image United and Al being cast as a bad guy. The terms 'endgame' and 'rebirth' being used.. Which.. DC did well enough, sure, but.. I don't think nearly enough has been done *with* Al Simmons as a character to justify needing to shake things up that much.

So.. Yeah. I don't read it any more, but I read a lot; the horror-flavoured stuff we had before the weird rotating door of creative teams a few years back was my favourite, though. I also read chunks of the spin-offs; Hellspawn was a gorgeous showcase for Ashley Wood, and Sam and Twitch was a great early Bendis vehicle.

Date: 2017-04-08 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Landing in a cornfield from the sky? Works for me!

Date: 2017-04-08 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liliaeth
I like this, might have to see if I can find it.


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