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Ardian Syaf, who recently made headlines for his hidden political and religious messages in an issue of the X-Men comics released a statement:

Hello, Worlds...My career is over now.
It's the consequence what I did, and I take it.
Please no more mockery, debat, no more hate. I hope all in peace.

In this last chance, I want to tell you the true meaning of the numbers, 212 and QS 5:51.

It is number of JUSTICE. It is number of LOVE. My love to Holy Qur' love to the last prophet, the love to ALLAH, The One God.

My apologize for all the noise. Good bye, May God bless you all. I love all of you.

-Ardian Syaf-


Err.....this reads like a suicide note to me.

Date: 2017-04-11 02:38 am (UTC)
rainspirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Fairly dramatic!

Date: 2017-04-11 03:13 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
More of a justification than an apology.

Date: 2017-04-11 03:37 am (UTC)
alicemacher: Lisa Winklemeyer from the webcomic Penny and Aggie, c2004-2011 G. Lagacé, T Campbell (Default)
From: [personal profile] alicemacher
Agreed. That was a textbook example of "'I'm sorry you're offended" instead of "I'm sorry for doing something offensive."

Date: 2017-04-11 04:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I've wondered when that happens as a not-apology. Is there a good way to say "I did not intend to offend or hurt anyone" without sounding like "art is supposed to be offensive, you plebian!"?

Date: 2017-04-11 06:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dragontail
Speaking for myself and myself only, I think the best way is to say something along the lines of "while I had no intention to cause offence, I accept that I have and I unreservedly apologise for my actions". Acceptance of what's flowed from one's actions is a big part, to me, of genuine contrition.

(That's likely borne of what I see in the courts, where I work. The lawyers I consider to be professional never seek to excuse a client's criminal conduct, but explain it so the resulting prison sentence is appropriately measured out.)

Date: 2017-04-11 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I've always wondered what you do if you are legitimately sorry you offended someone but also think what happened shouldn't have offended them

Date: 2017-04-11 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lissa_quon
Probably something like "I did not intend to upset people"

Date: 2017-04-12 11:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dragontail
Me personally? I mentally discard the second part. Doesn't matter what my opinion about the situation is - a person has been offended, I am legitimately sorry and I apologise without hesitation or reservation. My feelings, politics, beliefs, what have you, don't come into that equation.

But again, that's just me personally. I'd never presume to speak for others, nor recommend ways for others to act. That's neither my place nor my purpose.

Date: 2017-04-11 12:39 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
A good apology is in three steps:

1) Admit you did something wrong and you're sorry.
2) Show them that you understand the effect it had on them.
3) Tell them that you'll do things differently in the future so it won't happen again.

Date: 2017-04-11 04:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] xammax
4) Do things differently in the future.

Date: 2017-04-11 07:24 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Sure, just concentrate on your actions, not the reactions - 'I didn't intend to offend, but due to my own mistake, I did, for which I am sorry.'

Date: 2017-04-11 03:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
...Yeah, that's "glad I got more free press for my cause, peace out comics industry!"

I am strange I guess

Date: 2017-04-11 05:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blue_bolt
For some reason, when I read something that has numerous spelling and grammar errors, I feel like it would have been more sincere if he posted it in his native tongue and someone else translated it for us.

I kept thinking debat was someone's name or something before I realized he meant debate.

Date: 2017-04-11 05:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
I'm not really buying the 'justice/love/peace' thing. Sounds like doubling down to me.

I mean, if one wanted to put references to the Quran, *there are other references*. More appropriate ones!

Date: 2017-04-11 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
"Err.....this reads like a suicide note to me."

Well G. Willow Wilson did say that Syaf had committed career suicide, so...

Date: 2017-04-11 09:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
That's certainly dripping with sincerity

Date: 2017-04-11 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray
Hello, Worlds...My career is over now.

Date: 2017-04-11 03:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] speedingtortoise
"I love all of you"

Well apparently not buddy . . .

Date: 2017-04-11 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jgeils
As one who grew up dreaming of writing for Marvel & not getting anywhere close to it, I really want to slap the dummy. He got onto a triple-A title from the #1 comics publisher, and he bloody blew it! I'd expect an immature stunt like that from an 18-year-old, but this was from a schmuck who's been in the industry for 14 years, the last 8 of which were exclusive to DC.


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