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"Righties mad about looting: a nice TV is a small consolation prize for knowing a cop could shoot you anytime for no fucking reason." -- Nick Spencer

"--God's rage."
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Date: 2017-04-20 04:41 pm (UTC)
nyadnar17: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
"Righties mad about looting: a nice TV is a small consolation prize for knowing a cop could shoot you anytime for no fucking reason." -- Nick Spencer

Fuck you you stupid piece of fucking shit. You know whats not a nice fucking consolation prize? The only damn convenience store for miles not reopening because the profit it was making wasn't enough to invest rebuilding it.

Date: 2017-04-20 05:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
I don't think he's justifying looting, I think what he's saying is that instead of focusing on the root causes of the problem, a lot of the more loud spoken individuals on the right deflect focus away from the big problems and towards the symptom of the problem, the looting.

Date: 2017-04-20 05:13 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
This is so depressing you'd think it was a Daredevil story. An Ann Nocenti Daredevil story.

Date: 2017-04-20 05:52 pm (UTC)
joetuss: Ali (Default)
From: [personal profile] joetuss
And I think nyadnar17 comment proves your point

Date: 2017-04-20 07:41 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Wonder why Spencer couldn't depict actual police officers in a story about police brutality as opposed to this faceless goon squad.

Date: 2017-04-20 09:12 pm (UTC)
walkingthroughforest: (Default)
From: [personal profile] walkingthroughforest
Yeah you've just proved his point.

Date: 2017-04-20 10:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Wow, I didn't know left leaning people had disparaging nicknames for right leaners like right leaners have for the left. Do they also say that "rightism is the fastest growing religion in the world"?

Date: 2017-04-20 10:11 pm (UTC)
lizard_of_aus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lizard_of_aus
It's part and parcel of the superhero genre to confront real world problems by shifting them one or two degrees away from reality.

Date: 2017-04-20 11:05 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Yeah but Spencer is not even using the story as a metaphor for police brutality. It is a story about police brutality just one that dehumanizes the police as much as possible.

Date: 2017-04-20 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deathcrist2000
"Violence is never the answer," says the superhero.

Also, man am I not looking forward to Secret Empire. I mean, an event that starts out with a convoluted backstory featuring the Nazis being the real winners of WWII is bit crap to say the least.

Date: 2017-04-20 11:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katefan
From what I've heard of SE #0 you have to buy three other comics to get the fully fleshed out background, and there are three threads running through it. did an article about it and a guy on Youtube named Douglas Ernst who reviews comics looked at it, too. Neither review was exactly what you would call overwhelmingly positive.

Date: 2017-04-20 11:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Oh, they do - wingnut is a popular nickname, for example. Not familiar with "righties", though.

Date: 2017-04-20 11:51 pm (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
That quote reads like something a parody of a liberal would say.
Edited Date: 2017-04-20 11:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-21 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
It's not even about police brutality, really, because Rage got brought into custody alive and un-shot, and was beaten into a coma by his fellow inmates instead of the cops.

I don't understand what Spencer's doing with this. The Americops are faceless fascist figures, and yet the instance of police brutality Sam breaks up in this issue is a single cop wielding his nightstick against two black guys. I mean, my god, can you imagine a reality where a cop's first choice is a nightstick instead of a gun?

Date: 2017-04-21 01:02 am (UTC)
sadoeuphemist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
I'm saying it's not about brutality, in that police brutality is not the focus of the story - the stirring sermon doesn't even mention Rage being beaten! Certainly, the Americops are brutal, but so much less so than famous incidences of police brutality in real life. It's bizarre that Spencer has the Americops looking so intimidating, and then tones the violence way down from the real world.

Date: 2017-04-21 01:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, I was following all three books that were backup (T-bolts, Steve Cap, and USAvengers) to Secret Empire 0 and it was still convoluted, not least because Marvel was really unclear about the reading order until people started asking on Twitter. Secret Empire 0 was a whooole lot of setup, and people are going to need it to understand the series.

I'm not going to follow it because as far as I can tell the setup is "the Allies used to change the outcome of WWII, so it wasn't that Kobik changed Steve into Hydra, he was always Hydra," and that is....not for me.

Date: 2017-04-21 01:40 am (UTC)
sadoeuphemist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
Again, the sermon doesn't mention the brutality at all. All efforts go into proving Elvin innocent, rather than proving the Americops guilty. Elvin is bloodied and has a swollen eye when Sam visits him in jail, but does not seem otherwise incapacitated, and even the visual signifiers of his injury seem to have completely healed by the next issue. Police brutality is simply incidental to the story, it's not focused on at all.

Date: 2017-04-21 01:52 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
A lot of Spencer's writing is like that.

Date: 2017-04-21 02:11 am (UTC)
sadoeuphemist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
I'm saying that police brutality is so minimized it feels insulting. We don't have to compare this to shootings - let's compare Rage being beaten by the Americops and their truncheons, to him being beaten by his fellow inmates with their bare fists in this issue. Huge fucking difference in outcomes, eh?

Police brutality is straight-up ignored by the story. Rage, for all his rage at the system, is boiling at the thought of being unfairly convicted and doesn't seem to particularly care that he got the shit kicked out of him. Again, the priest in his sermon of all the injustices that were inflicted upon Rage, says that he was put in a cell, that he was convicted, and ... well, that's it.
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