Date: 2017-05-06 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
What If? humans cried by leaking glue out of the wrong corner of their eyes and temporarily devolving into apemen?

Date: 2017-05-06 09:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
And they just happen to have the ability to make an army of Clors, and the intelligence abilities of the hero community fail to pick up on it? And manage to have said army ready before the conflict is resolved by the entire might of the existent super community?

Not the worst What If but really pretty forced.

Date: 2017-05-06 09:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
So, was this about the super heroes themselves, or the general public who hated them for reasons? Even the actual CIVIL WAR didn't make that clear. Cap didn't say this was about the American people until the final issues of CIVIL WAR and FRONTLINE.

Date: 2017-05-07 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I think that started out about the safety of the people and protecting Superheroes, but devolved into being about winning instead.

Date: 2017-05-06 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
God, the faces...!

Also, wasn't Carol on the registration side?

And I really question someone at thirty percent of Thors strength being able to put his fists through Wonder Man like that.

Why are the new What Ifs always so terrible?

Date: 2017-05-06 10:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bizarrohulk
20-30% of Thor's strength and no Mjolnir? That would be a challenge for, say, Luke Cage, but the likes of She-Hulk and Wonder Man should be mowing through them like they were Hand mooks.
Edited Date: 2017-05-06 10:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-06 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Seriously. Wonder Man's whole thing is being as strong as Thor. He mentions it the way Superboy used to mention his tactile telekinesis.

Date: 2017-05-08 09:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Yep. And if anything he was more invulnerable, though he lacked Thor's centuries of combat experience. This is the equivalent of a 12-year-old running up and putting his fist through a SWAT officer's chest.

Date: 2017-05-07 12:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
It's in the title, this is "What if all the heroes were on Cap's side".

Date: 2017-05-06 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bizarrohulk
Why are Songbird, Radioactive Man and original-flavour Beetle villains here? They all pulled their heel-face turns long before Civil War.

Date: 2017-05-07 12:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
Radioactive Man became a villain again in the main continuity too and some else was using the original Beetle armor at the time.

But you're right about Songbird.

Date: 2017-05-06 10:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] informationgeek
So what happens now if Thanos arrives with his posse or we get an invasion from space? ...Gyrich never thought this through, did he?

Date: 2017-05-07 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Gyrich is not one of nature's thinkers.

"Hey, I'll antagonise the world's mightiest heroes!"
"Hey, I'll deprive the world's mightiest heroes of the resources they need to do hero-ing!"
"Ooh, I should have a former Nazi clone teenagers, then maybe have one of the clones bonded to an experimental alien weapon. Nothing can go wrong there!"
"Well, having a former Nazi clone teenagers went wrong. I should blame Iron Man for it, even though he's technically my boss!"

It's staggering that this man is allowed near so much as a post office, let alone a government job.
... staggering, but sadly not surprising.

... one day we're going to get a President Gyrich event. Just you wait and see.

Date: 2017-05-06 10:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cygnia
Will we ever see "What If: the citizens of the Marvel Universe weren't ungrateful assholes?"

Date: 2017-05-06 11:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Are you kidding? They glory in their a-holery! :)

Date: 2017-05-07 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
It all started with J Jonah Jameson. It continued with the X-Men. And it just went on and on.

Date: 2017-05-08 09:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Some things are just too far-fetched even for a What If? story.

Disdain

Date: 2017-05-07 01:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zer0man
It takes a lot for me to just outright hate a story completely, simply because that despite all the garbage that can be put out, there's often a sliver of something, a kernel that can allow you to perceive things in a different way, or display an idea not often touched upon.

However, this comic does not have that luxury for me. I find it in exceedingly poor taste. Shoddy art, our central figure is a blatant liar and a colossally manipulative backstabber, an overemphasis on seeing our favorite characters murdered... but my biggest issue is the ending, having it conclude on a trite and unearned 'Hindsight is 20/20' claim, especially considering the characters who say so.

This is without a doubt one of the worst 'What If' tales I've read.

Re: Disdain

Date: 2017-05-07 05:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
I agree. Horrible art and a story I can only describe as raging bullshit.

Ugh.

Date: 2017-05-07 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
So where was Iron Man's side in all of this?

Date: 2017-05-07 07:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
IIRC, in this 'verse, Stark died from the Extremis thing, so Gyrich lead the pro-Reg side, not Stark.

Date: 2017-05-07 12:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
There is no Iron Man side, this is "what if all the heroes sided with Cap?".

Date: 2017-05-08 12:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
This only really works within the confines of the framing device and the second story. This is 616!Tony getting showed two possibilities, the first being this to show that yes, without him, it would have been worse, but then the second showed him, to his horror, that if he had been honest about his own failings, Cap would have lived and the SHRA would have become the force for good it was supposed to be.

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