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One of the free books to be given out for Wonder Woman day and you can already see it free on comixology.

Here's four pages, wherein Diana introduces Bumblebee to Zeus, her father.

Wait... Zeus, her father?


No no!

I thought we were past this.

You know the funny thing is it seems like Bumblebee realized that before Diana did.

Date: 2017-05-31 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] timefire
You know, call me optimistic but I for some reason I genuinely thought they were gonna go with a plot twist of 'Zeus is the Father of Gods and Men so *everyone* calls him by the title of "Father"'.

... I kinda wanna see a story along that line now, actually

Date: 2017-05-31 03:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Diaaaanaaaa...you should know that introducing your female friends to Zeus is just asking for trouble.

Date: 2017-05-31 04:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alicemacher
Yeah, I don't trust this oddly jovial Zeus myself.

Date: 2017-05-31 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
Seriously, a more myth accurate version might have already impregnated Bee from the handshake alone

Date: 2017-05-31 06:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
Hey, who was the creative team for this? Is this Shea Fontana on writing?

I'd like to ask because she's taking over Wonder Woman after Rucka, and I'm curious to see some samples from her to see what we're in for.

Date: 2017-05-31 09:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yap
I get the impression that this series is a mix of the real world experiences of the target audience and DCU with things like Hawkgirl having an abeulita. Diana having divorced parents plays into that too. But this line is getting some sort of a rehaul next year with a Cartoon Network show helmed by Lauren Faust and featuring a similar lineup with new designs and Jessica Cruz being added in.

Does anyone else get a Marvin the Martian vibe from Ares here, btw?

Date: 2017-05-31 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
Lauren Faust? That's actually great news. I wanted to like it but the YouTube shorts felt like poorly done My Little Pony, so at least if we get something derivative here it's going to be well-done My Little Pony.

Date: 2017-05-31 03:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
so DCSHG is going from the 10 minute clip format to full on series?

Date: 2017-05-31 06:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yap
Hopefully, we'll see the sidekicks in the new cartoon. I'd like to think the likes of Cassie and Steph and such are in the equivalent grade school.

Date: 2017-05-31 01:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Did Zeus do a "shower of gold" trick for an underage girl? Words cannot express how uncomfortable that makes me...

I'm sure it's not deliberate but the mythological implications are already present.

Date: 2017-05-31 03:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I think this was more of the typical dad "coin behind your ear thing"

shower of gold I always took it to be more like... gold dust... or like golden light.... gold coins would hurt....

Date: 2017-05-31 03:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
I've always assumed a golden liquid.

(And, yes, that implies...er...well, a golden shower, but not what I mean in this case.)

That said...Danae is what came to mind in that bit.
Edited Date: 2017-05-31 04:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-31 03:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I never really hated the "zeus is her father" thing... mainly due to the whole "family drama" that it brings up (it's something I can relate to). this is one of the comics it was done pretty well in.

that is not to say I didn't love the original concept, I did. I love the idea that a woman created her own child which was then brought to life by her goddesses... heck, even if they had had Zeus just bring the clay to life and have him be her "father" that way, would have worked for me too (which is I think what they are going for in the movie).

I feel like there are any number of ways the comic could have done it. Brought to life by Zeus, brought to life by goddesses, actually conceived by Zeus and Hippolyta. Originally conceived by zeus and Hippolyta pre Amazonian rebirth and brought to life by goddesses... actually I like this idea....

Zeus and Hippolyta were lovers before her death and conceived Diana. However, she died and when she was brought back to life on Paradise island she missed her child, fashioned one out of clay and had it brought to life by goddesses... I think this would have worked out well... she is still the daughter of Zeus, and a Demi goddess, but she retains her original brought to life by goddesses origin.

I feel like the current (was current) story suffered from TOO MUCH Change, I feel like people could have dealt with Zeus as father if the Amazons were not made into man killing rapist slavers.... and vice versa... sorta....

Date: 2017-05-31 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Pandora comparison?

except post new 52 there was no cassie. and then cassie wasn't a demi goddess anymore instead she was a thief (which is kinda what she was rocked up to 11 before it was revealed she WAS a demigoddess... or was she ares' daughter this time around... I lost track...)

I admit things got a TAD confusing....

also, how does this change Hippolyta being a single mother if she is no longer with Zeus.

I am with you on the feminist commentary though. and had they not made as many changes as they did to this origin, it might have been more palatable for me...

I still like my idea best though, keeps the old stuff true while also keeping the new stuff, and adding the weird family dynamics that I kinda love and think would be a good Shtick for Diana. (I loved the Strife/Diana/Hera dynamic they had going for a bit till the that husband wife team mad Hera a straight up antagonist again..._)

Date: 2017-05-31 06:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
oh doesn't have to be domestic violence. Daughter of Hippolyta by Zeus, but killed in battle before giving birth, then reborn by the goddesses as an act to counter Zeus's creation of Pandora.

Date: 2017-05-31 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
What do you mean, "dealt with"? If you think that the fandom could have just tolerated man-killing rapist slaver Themyscirans, I disagree. It would have been bad.

There were a lot of divisions in Wondy fandom already, and we'd had to learn to tolerate that and get along; but I think Azz went too far.

Granted, I'm actually mad at Azz for his characterization of Apollo, whom I would have made considerably more sympathetic. So I am biased.

Azzarello's run has some appealing characters, Chiang's art is rather good, but not for nothing has it been tossed into a dumpster.
Edited (I know that descriptivists say "whom" is deprecrated; but on rereading, I wanted that m in there.) Date: 2017-05-31 08:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-31 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
Somewhere, Cassie Sandsmark is saying, "Better you than I, Di!"

Date: 2017-05-31 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray
Ugh >_>


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