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So the first story arc is over now and we finally got to see what She-Hulk looks like now... maybe. I'll explain.



Here we go... Jennifer's big debut in Hulk #6!


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Someone... is looking more bestial and rather lanky than usual. Not really a Hulk, but more like the Witch from Left 4 Dead with better muscle definition.

This design does not line up with the covers...

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Nor even how she looks in Civil War II: The Long Haul #4...

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So the design in the comic doesn't line up with anything else we've seen and while I'm calling this her new form, I don't really think it is either. Nico Lean has problems drawing Hulk characters. If you read the book, he draws She-Hulk has Jennifer Walters, but with a coat of green paint and hair dye. Maybe this is her new look, but I'm not honestly sure. What do you guys think?

Date: 2017-06-02 01:09 am (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Hulk mutates all the time. No way to be sure if this is permanent or not.
Edited Date: 2017-06-02 01:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-02 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
It could just be a stylistic choice on the part of the artist
Design elements from the covers and CW2 are still there, grey skin, green hair and open wounds that are glowing green.

Presumably other artists will draw her more muscular and without those odd ridges on her back.

Date: 2017-06-02 02:09 am (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Banner started gray and went gray again under he-who-a-fit-would-be-thrown-if-I-named.

Date: 2017-06-02 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Given the dialog, maybe it's "Fear She-Hulk". Banner's "Fear Hulk" doesn't look like the other Hulks either.

Date: 2017-06-02 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Wait, maybe I'm thinking of "Guilt Hulk". I guess both work.

Given the overly dark turn Jen seems to be taking, I think I'd rather see a female Clown Hulk.

Date: 2017-06-02 04:40 am (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
Is it sexist to want a pretty She-Hulk? Judging from the crappy art from the last series and this one apparently we're not supposed to find Jen attractive any more. :(

Date: 2017-06-02 10:58 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Probably depends on how you're defining "Pretty".

Date: 2017-06-02 12:22 pm (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
If you mean that I am looking for Frank Cho cheesecake or Ed Bene ass shots, then no, I don't need that. I'm certainly not a prude but I don't need overt sex to sell comics.

But Marvel artists seem to think that if a female character is feminine and attractive then consumers won't take her seriously. It's the same problem with Captain Marvel, where a more militaristic, less feminine, less "sexy" appearance means we now can take her more seriously (They even take a slam at the old look when Carol Danvers makes note of her television persona's cleavage. never mind how revealing her old outfits had looked in the past.). Wonder Woman looks all kinds of awesome in her current outfit and people take her seriously as a character.

Date: 2017-06-02 02:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
That depends. Do you care for 'prettiness' and 'attractiveness' in male Hulks (Banner or Ross etc.) as much as you care for them in female Hulks? If you want all female characters and only the female characters to be pretty and attractive, then it's sexist by definition. If you want all characters to be pretty and attractive (even the Hydean monsters and battle-hardened soldiers) regardless of gender, then it's not sexist; though an argument could me made against policing of beauty standards (I can count on one hand how many female superheroes I'd describe as 'not pretty' or 'unattractive'—Jen and Danvers in recent comics certainly don't qualify as unattractive, to my estimates; by which I mean if any of these two smiled to me in a bar, I'd basically melt).

Date: 2017-06-02 02:56 pm (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
I never needed the male Hulks to be attractive. Perhaps that's because I'm a heterosexual male and I don't rate attractiveness in male characters as much as I do in female. So I don't think it's sexist to not care about how attractive males are but to care about the attractiveness of females. That's just biology, man.

And I don't need all female characters to be physically attractive to me to find them interesting or compelling. I always liked old school Amanda Waller over the Nu52 super model, for example (Thank goodness they backpedaled from that interpretation.). And I liked Gert in the Runaways because she bucked the trend of the thin female character and she was even a little critical of the sexualizing of teens (her criticism of Dagger's ridiculous outfit, for example.).

Date: 2017-06-02 07:34 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
This isn't my She-Hulk.
This isn't my Jennifer Walters.
This run just doesn't work for me. :(

Date: 2017-06-02 03:00 pm (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
Honestly, it hasn't been my Jennifer since she sided with Stark during Civil War. How could a champion of civil rights back the man who trampled all over them? And by way of example of that, she tried to argue against the mutant registration act but kept getting interrupted by Titania.

Date: 2017-06-02 11:34 am (UTC)
trooper924: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trooper924
I like it.

The glowing scars are a neat touch.

Date: 2017-06-02 02:18 pm (UTC)
leoboiko: manga-style picture of a female-identified person with long hair, face not drawn, putting on a Japanese fox-spirit max (Default)
From: [personal profile] leoboiko
I'm still not very happy with the grimdarkness, but I liked a few things in this arc: the art, the unhurried buildup of suspense, and the parallels between Walter's personal crisis and the monster she fights. Both Walter and her enemy are women damaged by the world, who only want to hole up in safety and forget about everything. Both of them externalize this in the form of big, scary, ugly monsters, who serve to protect themselves and those around themselves. The difference is that Jen makes the hard, heroic choice of actually going out her cave and trying to reach people. The slow pacing works very well with this, because it reflects how difficult everything is for a depressed, anxious person. And her final letting go of the new Hulk transformation amounts to acceptance of her shadow, so it makes every sense that it took her six issues to come out of the closet. The parallel with Hikikomori-Woman is a bit too obvious, but it works to show how easy would it be to give in; how brave is Walters in forging ahead.

In other words, the very points that people complain about regarding this comic are, for me, its redeeming qualities.

And yes, the glowing scars are rad.

Date: 2017-06-02 08:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stacyhd
Nah, not for me. I'll stick with my John Bryrne/Dan Slott runs until this thing blows over.

Date: 2017-06-02 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I'm reading it because I love Jen Walters as a character and want to see where this new phase of her life goes, but I am about ready for someone to call in the Punisher as the solution to her client's problems. Her infantilization with the insistence on only hearing what she wants to hear and petulantly blaming anyone who tells her different even when they're trying to help really rubs me the wrong way before we even get to the deadly id monster that ambushes and eats anyone she's upset with.
Edited Date: 2017-06-02 10:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-03 05:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
It's a weird discrepancy given the depiction that we've seen of She-Hulk just on the covers of the series. I don't dislike the look, and I think it works for the way that this series has attempted to make the character threatening rather than the more lighthearted direction we're used to.

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