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*In 2017, that would be a relatively big deal. But in 2000, when Wonder Woman Vol.2 #160 was released, it was just a two part story in among a series of short one and two part stories by artists and writers whose name I don't really recognise, though art in this story is handled by Scott Kolins.
This two parter is collected in the Batman: False Faces trade that has BKV's early work at DC writing Batman, Batvillains, and Wonder Woman. It's nothing amazing, but it does give a nice Wonder Woman story with an angle that seems obvious in hindsight.

I haven't read a lot of Wonder Woman, apart from some stuff around Infinite Crisis (over a decade ago. Gosh.), the Power Girl guest appearance, and bits of Sensation Comics until I ended up behind.

The story starts with Cheetah holding a car above her head and threatening that "If Wonder Woman doesn't show up in the next five minutes...I will kill every last one of you".
Two cops are watching and ready to run out from behind cover to engage Cheetah when Wonder Woman descends from the sky and says "I was hoping I could end this peacefully"






Date: 2017-06-03 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I prefer the clay origin and all. But the idea that she's still clay, that she's not really flesh and blood just leads to people thinking she's not a real person.

And it's down this road that we get the awful Donna Troy from Finch's run.

Date: 2017-06-03 10:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
It's strange 'Face had the archeo-level research skills to suss out Diana's clay origins, but not double-check who Cheetah really was along the way. Aside from his penchant for method acting, the latter seems to be easier information to uncover than the former.

Barring that, though, this is actually a pretty good untapped interaction! It reminds me of that Hal Jordan arc where Larfleeze stole Brainiac's collection of cities: it's a perfectly unsurprising combination once it's on paper, but it's still impressive how no one's really put the two halves before.

So what happened in the end?
Edited (Changed 'an' to 'a', because today's been a pretty free day. Living to the fullest.) Date: 2017-06-03 11:03 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-03 10:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
-It's strange 'Face had the archeo-level research skills to suss out Diana's clay origins, but not double-check who Cheetah really was along the way. Aside from his penchant for method acting, the latter seems to be easier information to uncover than the former.-

I think Diana has publicly stated it a time or two. Clayface strikes me as overstated his research.


-So what happened in the end? -

He gets some of her clay, becomes superpowered, she beats him, and getting her clay back, actually gets a small power-boost.

Date: 2017-06-04 02:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
Yeah, okay, she probably would've mentioned that, being in her ambassador/interview phase and all. I can probs buy that.

He gets some of her clay, becomes superpowered, she beats him, and getting her clay back, actually gets a small power-boost.

Thanks! Seems like that kinda got off the rails there: I'll go check it out.

Date: 2017-06-03 11:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yap
One of my favorite scenes, not even a whole story, is when Wonder Woman uses the lasso on Anarky and he spills before adding that she should be using it on politicians, impertinent as always but I do think there's an interesting dynamic there in him initially having gone off track due to losing an overseas friend in a war.

Date: 2017-06-03 10:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Oh yes, that's good.

Heck, come to think of it, why doesn't Wonder Woman have a whole class of minor villains trying to convince her to use her lasso for this or that?

Date: 2017-06-05 05:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yap
Not just any of them will do. I've just found Anarky's run-ins with the broader DCU interesting . Ollie, Kyle, Jeb, Diana, etc. Diana's was the briefest of these but conceptually, I think it would make for an interesting team up especially given his contradictions.

Date: 2017-06-05 08:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Agreed, he's a nice character to shine a light on others.

Date: 2017-06-03 01:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Ummm, NOT a fan of this.

Diana is not a golem, or in any sense animated clay. She was formed of clay, but was turned into a living being by the power of the gods. There's no clay in her for Clayface to be interested in.

Date: 2017-06-03 06:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I honestly really like the golem angle. I adore it whenever its brought up.

Date: 2017-06-03 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Yea, I kinda do too. I mean, it doesn't make her less of a person or not flesh, but it's got a kind of mythic transhumanism nod.

Date: 2017-06-04 02:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
As soon as she was given life, clay ceased to be relevant, and more than the carbon in the food our mothers ate defines what makes us human.

The clay gave her shape, not substance and suggesting she's still fundamentally clay rather than a living, breathing person seems to imply she's less than human.

Date: 2017-06-03 01:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
That's pretty cool, Face can absorb her like Majin Buu, and add to his own power. What happened in the end?
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Date: 2017-06-03 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Sorry, go ahead.

Date: 2017-06-03 02:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michaelsaint
I don't like this idea either.

Diana is flesh and blood, otherwise she is not human and that makes her a totally different character.

Points for creativity but this is not true to the character of Wonder Woman.

Date: 2017-06-03 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] doctor_spanky
Holy wah that's Scott Kolins? This looks so much cleaner than his more recent stuff

Date: 2017-06-03 11:17 pm (UTC)
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I love Diana's sigh as she tosses Cheetah/Clayface. :)

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