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It’s explicitly a book about fading Empire. M16’s roots are in World War 2, and the core of the plot reaches back to there. What is Britain’s place in the world now? What does being British even mean? In a real way, it is a post-Brexit Bond. -- Kieron Gillen

Date: 2017-06-24 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
Anyone else find it kinda weird to see a lefty like Gillen working on one of *the* most iconic symbols of the British Right?

Somehow, Bond without the rampant, near-cartoonish xenophobia just doesn't feel like Bond.

Date: 2017-06-24 10:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
A few of the modern writers have worked with this by openly shining a spotlight on his tendencies (Ellis), which makes him a sort of ambiguous antihero, or even caricaturing him outright (Moore), but this here feels different. At least from the excerpt, it's like the writer's telling you there's Bad Nationalism (the Brexiter villain) and Good Nationalism (Bond's), and Good Nationalism is a good thing. The fantasist's bad way of doing violence and risking his life for his country implies, by contrast, that Bond's/MI6's way is fine and acceptable.

Date: 2017-06-24 12:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
If it's not a lefty working on Bond, who would it be? Do you see a lot of right-wing writers around?

Date: 2017-06-24 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
I was going to attach this as an addendum, but figured no one would call me on it. That'll teach me...

But yeah, right-wing writers are rare enough in the American comics market. From what I can tell the British comics market spontaneously popped into existence through sheer hatred for Margaret Thatcher, so no use looking for conservatives there...

Date: 2017-06-24 05:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
There's always the chance Chuck Dixon'll write a Bond mini for Dynamite.

Date: 2017-06-25 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] palgrave_goldenrod
Considering how that the dominant tone of the comics version of James Bond hasn't exactly been "Gee, James Bond is a totally awesome and completely unproblematic character that no one should have any problems with whatsoever and who's view of the world is one that we should unquestioningly share", to be honest I'd find it a lot more weird if it wasn't a leftie writing it.

Date: 2017-06-26 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Eh, I would say that's not really fair. I think Bond has been pretty alright about other cultures since about Dalton. Even all Russian villains were either extremists going against their goverment or independent parties completely. Dalton even teamed up with nice friendly Afghanistan rebels in Living Daylights (it's a lot less awkward than Rambo III but still).

Date: 2017-06-26 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
Yeah, but that's movie!Bond, and he's always been more mainstream-y to sell more tickets (doesn't legend have it that Cubby Broccoli specifically toned down the anti-Russia streak of the books because he knew one day the Soviet Union would be screening Bond movies too?). Print!Bond strikes me as a different beast entirely, and from what I can tell, these comics are made directly at the request of Ian Fleming's estate. Zero involvement from Eon.


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