"1. Tilda Swinton replaced an Asian character and they kept the location in Asia. Do you see the difference? Why keep Kamar-Taj in the Himalayas if the Ancient One, the oldest and most experienced living sorcerer supreme wasn't of Asian descent? Because they wanted to use the exotic and oriental mysticism without actually giving focus or importance to Asian characters."
So if the Ancient One was in a non-Asian location there'd be no controversy? Not that they took an Asian character and made them white?
Also it doesn't excuse anything but Disney was concerned about China money and didn't want to get the film banned because of the Tibetan aspect.
"2. There's a huge difference in the visibility of a character like Cyborg and a minor Z-List character like Fredzilla. Fred's Ainu heritage was only mentioned once in his entire existence. And it was by another character not Fred himself. That's not to say that his inclusion isn't important, but that most people simply wouldn't have read that scene and thus they wouldn't know he was Ainu. Cyborg has existed for decades, has appeared in multiple cartoons, games, and movies. He exists in the public consciousness as an African American man Almost nobody had heard about Fred before the movie came out. That's just not an equivalent comparison."
No one cares about Killmonger from Black Panther. Would making him Jesse Eisenberg be ok then with you? Because again Jesse Eisenberg is clearly a POC under your definition so therefore no whitewashing.
But either way you're saying "in some cases erasing an Asian character is ok".
"3. Khan IS an Asian character, his full name is Khan Noonien Singh. Cumberbatch got some critical blowback online but his career hasn't suffered for it at all. If anything its stronger than ever. Tilda Swinton's career hasn't suffered either. She still has a number of major roles coming up. It was a paycheck to them and they don't really care if anyone was offended. "
But there was still far more controversy than anything in BH6. Which was my point.
But yes -- Asian whitewashing is never going to be a serious blowback period.
"Secondly what about Japanese-American people? They have their own perspectives on the blending of Japanese and American culture. How many of them were offended by San Fransokyo? "
I didn't do a polling but a number of Asian people on Tumblr found the name itself to be offensive let alone the whitewashing and appropriation of Japanese culture.
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So if the Ancient One was in a non-Asian location there'd be no controversy? Not that they took an Asian character and made them white?
Also it doesn't excuse anything but Disney was concerned about China money and didn't want to get the film banned because of the Tibetan aspect.
"2. There's a huge difference in the visibility of a character like Cyborg and a minor Z-List character like Fredzilla. Fred's Ainu heritage was only mentioned once in his entire existence. And it was by another character not Fred himself. That's not to say that his inclusion isn't important, but that most people simply wouldn't have read that scene and thus they wouldn't know he was Ainu.
Cyborg has existed for decades, has appeared in multiple cartoons, games, and movies. He exists in the public consciousness as an African American man
Almost nobody had heard about Fred before the movie came out.
That's just not an equivalent comparison."
No one cares about Killmonger from Black Panther. Would making him Jesse Eisenberg be ok then with you? Because again Jesse Eisenberg is clearly a POC under your definition so therefore no whitewashing.
But either way you're saying "in some cases erasing an Asian character is ok".
"3. Khan IS an Asian character, his full name is Khan Noonien Singh. Cumberbatch got some critical blowback online but his career hasn't suffered for it at all. If anything its stronger than ever.
Tilda Swinton's career hasn't suffered either. She still has a number of major roles coming up.
It was a paycheck to them and they don't really care if anyone was offended. "
But there was still far more controversy than anything in BH6. Which was my point.
But yes -- Asian whitewashing is never going to be a serious blowback period.
"Secondly what about Japanese-American people? They have their own perspectives on the blending of Japanese and American culture. How many of them were offended by San Fransokyo? "
I didn't do a polling but a number of Asian people on Tumblr found the name itself to be offensive let alone the whitewashing and appropriation of Japanese culture.