Date: 2017-10-11 04:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malitia
Next up: Narrative trap, because Gwen didn't read comics since Secret Wars (2015). :3

Date: 2017-10-11 06:06 pm (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
That's a very good point. Her "superpower" is that she knows everything about everybody's status because she has read about them. But the longer she stays away from her world where she gets to read those comics, the less her knowledge remains up to date.

Like, what if she fights a villain that has traditionally been portrayed as fairly harmless, but just then the writer decides to do a dark-and-gritty upgrade and turns them into a dangerous monster?

Date: 2017-10-11 06:43 pm (UTC)
malitia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] malitia
Or a villain who got a (however temporal) redemption arc recently so currently counts as a hero.

(I've read issue #21 of Gwenpool and the solicits so I'm trying to be as spoilerless as I can here. ^^;)

Edit: Grammar fix. And... is it just me or this series just became a spiritual successor to Loki: Agent of Asgard. O.o
Edited Date: 2017-10-11 06:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-10-11 10:30 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Didn't they do that with MODOK? Plus Batroc was treated as the most competent member of her merc crew.

Date: 2017-10-12 09:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray
Batroc has always been competent, though. The issue is that he goes up against heroes like Captain America, who are superhumanly competent, so they make him look like a chump.

And it didn't help that one particular Deadpool writer, who by his own admission knew very little about Batroc, decided to use him as Deadpool's personal punching bag, as well as to portray him as such an asshole that even old-school Deadpool looked good in comparison. Batroc had previously been portrayed as so honourable that he'd jump into shark-infested waters to rescue an injured Cap because he thought it would be a shame if a great man died so ignominiously, but somehow in Deadpool comics that very same character would push people in wheelchair out of a window for shit and giggles.

I remember one old Cap comic where a bunch of mercenaries think it's a good idea to try and bully Batroc, calling him "the guy who always loses against Captain America." After he utterly wipes the floor with them, he helpfully points out that "everybody loses against Captain America."

Date: 2017-10-12 05:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
That issue of Deadpool was my first exposure to Batroc; I'd previously known of him only vaguely as, well. A guy who loses to Captain America. I was pretty annoyed when I learned more about him and realized how dirty he'd been done.

Date: 2017-10-12 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Did they establish when she came from? If she came from, say, 2032, she's got a good bit of knowledge to last for a while.

Date: 2017-10-12 10:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malitia
We saw a world created from her memories to be just like her own before she left it and Secret Wars #3 was shown to be a current book in there. So yeah, her knowledge pretty much ends in 2015.

Date: 2017-10-11 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray
This is beautiful.

Date: 2017-10-12 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
Yeah, it's a shame they don't give Gurihiru more work, but the quality would suffer if they did, probably.

Date: 2017-10-11 07:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I'm not sure if this is saying "Gwenpool has villain powers but doesn't have to be a villain" or "The readers like the grimdark but they don't only want the grimdark." Maybe both.

Date: 2017-10-12 05:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] qalchemist
Who makes the editorial decisions? The Editors.

Who looks at all the grimdark and decides she doesn't want it, and won't go with it? Gwenpool. What's Gwenpool?

A FAN.

Date: 2017-10-12 11:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
Christopher Hastings is writing the most meta comic I've seen (which is saying something). But he's also making it great, which is no small feat.

Date: 2017-10-12 03:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oakie620
This couldn't be more meta if Gwenpool shot at the fourth wall and a bullet came out of the page.

Not complaining, mind you. I do think comics could use a bit of self-reflection and perspective (particularly Marvel, in face of their recent bad habits).

And it seems Gwenpool's self-retcon is averting Civil War III, which can only be a good thing.

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