Date: 2018-01-05 12:10 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
...You know, if not for that one villain whose gimmick is she got shot in the head and survived cause she has a weird brain thing, so she's walking around with a Hole in her head you can see through to the other side, THIS would be the dumbest Batman villain ever.

Date: 2018-01-05 12:55 am (UTC)
nyadnar17: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Is he even a villain? Like he isn't smart, hes not rich anymore, and his about as physically threatening as a preteen can be.

Isn't he more like, a shitty day at the office?

Date: 2018-01-05 03:13 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
If they can turn Mr. ZZazz (SIC) into a legit Batman villain, then they can do the same to this kid.

Date: 2018-01-05 04:11 am (UTC)
randyripoff: (splash brannigan)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Dumber than the Ten-Eyed Man?

Date: 2018-01-05 04:40 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, I probably should have prefaced that this kid is the second dumbest Modern Batman villain. Because if we go backwards we start getting guys like Ten Eyed Man, SImon the Pieman, Killer Moth, Humpty Dumpty, Ally Babble, I can go on...

Date: 2018-01-05 10:43 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Ten-Eyed Man is the best villain. Thanks to optic nerves in his fingers, he can see in every direction!

Date: 2018-01-05 11:28 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
If they didn't keep his hands locked up, how would they ever contain him?????

Date: 2018-01-06 12:22 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Exactly!

Date: 2018-01-05 12:45 am (UTC)
thanekos: Lora, crafting. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
The Amazing Mr. Parallel, everybody.

Date: 2018-01-05 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] caivu
I wonder if he wrote the names on first. It'd be pretty embarrassing if he just looked in a mirror and forgot to flip them.

Date: 2018-01-05 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Okay, kid, if you want to be Bruce Wayne, you are doing it poorly. you have yet to adopt one orphan. I mean, look at Damian! he adopted himself a sister already!

Date: 2018-01-05 02:27 am (UTC)
informationgeek: (djpon3)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
Sister? I feel like I'm missing sonething. Who is it?

Date: 2018-01-05 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
I am mostly joking, but i was talking about Maya Ducard. A.K.A. Nobody. who he befriended during "Robin: Son of Batman".

Date: 2018-01-06 10:45 pm (UTC)
rainspirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Please don't give psycho kid ideas...

Date: 2018-01-07 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Look. If he is going to compromise with his theme, he should at least do it CORRECTLY.

Date: 2018-01-05 02:59 am (UTC)
spider_man6: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spider_man6
It's an interesting concept, but I wonder how he'll pose a threat to the issues to come. My one hope regarding this new villain is that he's not nicknamed "Bruce Wayne." Maybe "Lost Child" or something up that alley.

Date: 2018-01-05 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] balbanes
I don't get it. The butler killed everyone-- including the parents-- on the kid's orders? Wouldn't the butler be more loyal to those parents, whom he's presumably known a lot longer?
Edited Date: 2018-01-05 03:44 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-05 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
One word: inheritance.

Date: 2018-01-05 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Huh. This is weird and a little unsettling, but knowing what I know of Tom King, I assume it's the set-up for something a little more kick-in-the-gut.

Date: 2018-01-05 04:37 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Tom King may be taking the "Bruce does more long-term good for Gotham as 'Bruce Wayne'" idea and flipping it. Bruce isn't the "inspiration" he thinks he is.

Still... Bruce knew he needed a disguise is because he couldn't follow THE PLAN as Bruce Wayne. But maybe not for the reasons we think. There are a few lines I hope to get some artwork commissioned around (is that a term?) someday. It's partially inspired by an Inspector Lewis episode.

"I don't mind being dismissed as a rich kid playing detective. I don't even mind getting the little card with the victim helpline on it. What I mind is the pity when they realize 'That's Bruce Wayne and his parents...' I will NOT be pitied."
Edited (Tom King, not Tim King) Date: 2018-01-05 04:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-05 11:22 am (UTC)
lucean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucean
But what kind of a inspiration should he then be? Is the argument here then that since Bruce suffered a childhood tragedy and triumphed over it, he became a bad inspiration?

I'm not actually critical of the story, although King's utter incapability for subtlety made it difficult for me personally to enjoy.

Date: 2018-01-05 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
If that is the case, I feel King may have misunderstood what that meant.
He wasn't better because he was an inspiration as Bruce Wayne, but because he is actively investing his fortune into improving Gotham's infrastructure, creating well paid jobs, cheaply yet comfortable living conditions, etc. While also encouraging paparazzis to keep on describing him as a womanizing ditz who doesn't know the first thing about working hard.

Date: 2018-01-05 05:34 pm (UTC)
shakalooloo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
I think maybe King's playing with the idea that villains only pop up in Gotham in response to Batman being there. Here's a villain that was created in response to Bruce Wayne, with no connection to the bat.

Date: 2018-01-05 11:19 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (bruce (shirt))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
I agree. It's always Batman with the disturbed enemies/followers. Nice twist that Bruce is this kid's (lamentable) inspiration.

Date: 2018-01-06 01:09 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
And attempting to frame Batman's villains plays into that, in an interesting way.

He seems to have bought into the 'Batman breeds villains' thing, while seeing Bruce Wayne as the hero. By making it look like Zsasz and Two-Face did this, he discredits Batman (or at least thinks he does), allowing focus to shift to Bruce, where it should be.

Date: 2018-01-06 01:14 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Kamino Neko's mildly baffled icon. (Buh?)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Y'know, Bruce a detective like you should have noticed something was hinky when the kid transitioned to 'this is awesome' just after you told him that his butler killed his parents...

Date: 2018-01-06 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Uh, I really can't see Batman shouting "You're a sick kid with dead parents!" at, well, a sick kid with dead parents. Murderers or not, traumatized orphans are his specialty. His discipline and compassion get turned up to 11 when he's dealing with them.

Nice to see the Gotham medical system upholding tradition, though. Sure, pop the mentally ill preteen into a straitjacket and throw him in to a filthy cell with horror-movie lighting! Don't bother treating his facial wounds, just let 'em scar up good! With luck he'll have a supervillain codename and a fully-developed rationale for mass murder before he hits puberty!

Date: 2018-01-16 05:21 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
So... is there ANY in Gotham who can actually cope with lost, let alone having a bad day and endure it? Aside from Jim and Barbara Gordon?

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