Date: 2018-01-11 08:32 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
The existence of this still confuses me. I mean, if Frank Cho wants to draw boobs, we should just let him, instead of this steam-covered softcore nonsense. :)

Seriously, was there any point to this?

Date: 2018-01-11 09:17 pm (UTC)
goattoucher: (Kurt)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
Actually, the original had full nudity, but they asked him to edit it before release. You can find the scans online if you look.

A great one is when Shanna's containment tube bursts and she falls on the doctor, you get a shot that is just a breast (with a nipple and everything!) coming at his face from his point of view as she falls on him. It is not particularly titillating, but it is funny.

THE CONTAINMENT TUBE IS CRACKING!
Doctor: "Wha-"
:-BOOB-:
:Whump:
:Nude, unconscious Shanna lies on top of Doctor:
ARE YOU OKAY?!?
Doctor: :thumbs up:

My question is this: where did she learn nudity taboos?

Modern clothes are clearly restricting (as we see in these scans) so why not go nude? She is a genetic superwoman, so she does not need breast support, and that leather top clearly does nothing to help restrain them, so why bother?

Further, why would she give a shit that Creepy McToothless was peeping on her, especially to the point where she would literally throw him to the crocodiles?

On one hand, I appreciate, first and foremost, that this comic was made so that Frank Cho could draw the one body type he likes to draw to the delight of nerds who like buxom girls everywhere, but if you look past that into the story (such as it is) why would a genetically manipulated killing machine care if anybody saw her secondary sexual traits?

Date: 2018-01-11 10:00 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Good points, yes.
I have no issues with nudity... this series just seemed so oddly pointless. :)

Date: 2018-01-14 06:53 pm (UTC)
goattoucher: (Cyke)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
Frank Cho and Adam Hughes are undeniably great artists, with tremendous range and flexibility.

However, for all their skill, they both -really- like drawing buxom women. I give a bit more credit to Cho, because his women tend to be more muscular and realistically proportioned (large breasts tend to accompany wide hips, for example) where Hughes tends to draw the kind of body type featured in the "men's magazines" where he got his start (slim, with huge breasts seemingly out of nowhere). Credit to Hughes, however: Cho's faces tend to be a bit samey, where Hughes makes a point of making his designs distinct facially.

Anyway, some people just like comics featuring busty women with prominently featured bustiness. Not my bag, but the market is out there.
Edited Date: 2018-01-14 06:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-15 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
She doesn't. She just wanted to watch someone die.

Date: 2018-01-15 06:42 am (UTC)
goattoucher: (Kurt)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
I have not read this series, but if that is the answer, I am content.

Date: 2018-01-11 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
There actually are people who prefer softcore stuff.

No, I don't get it either, but it is apparently a thing.

Date: 2018-01-11 10:42 pm (UTC)
alicemacher: Lisa Winklemeyer from the webcomic Penny and Aggie, c2004-2011 G. Lagacé, T Campbell (Default)
From: [personal profile] alicemacher
My understanding has always been that "softcore" does involve nudity. As opposed to hardcore, which involves explicit sex.

So no, as published, this isn't even softcore. It's cheesecake.

Date: 2018-01-11 09:06 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
are the butt squares necessary....?

Date: 2018-01-12 04:04 am (UTC)
baroncognito: (Default)
From: [personal profile] baroncognito
She's wearing overalls? I believe those had butt squares so you could use the bathroom without taking them off.

Date: 2018-01-12 08:22 am (UTC)
garth2the2ndpower: (Default)
From: [personal profile] garth2the2ndpower
"Coveralls that don't quite cover all!"

Date: 2018-01-11 09:07 pm (UTC)
goattoucher: (Kurt)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
I like the torn coveralls. The notion that she -tried- to wear people clothes, but her thews are so mighty and her movements so broad that she bursts the seams. As such, she ends up wearing nearly nothing because modern clothes restrict her movement.

I don't buy it, of course: Cho never needed a reason to draw scantily clad women, but as explanations go, it's not the worst.

Not like "Vampire T&A is meant to draw you in so we can spring character development and a deep story on you."

Date: 2018-01-11 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
I think there was a Max version of this

Date: 2018-01-12 03:32 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Raptors have FEATHERS dammit!

Date: 2018-01-12 08:20 am (UTC)
garth2the2ndpower: (Default)
From: [personal profile] garth2the2ndpower
Holy shit, that cover! It's just one step away from Shanna actually wrestling a giant penis.

I remember reading about this series in Wizard magazine. Apparently, the reason behind the whole "nazi experiment" retcon was that Frank Cho believed that Shanna attaining her abilities naturally was bullshit. Never brought up any problems with beliving Ka-Zar's abilities, but a woman with that kind of natural prowess seemed to shatter his suspension of disbelief.

Date: 2018-01-12 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
I believe Ka-Zar got his powers from some kind radioactive Savage Land mists. Same as keeps Zabu young and super-intelligent.

Date: 2018-01-12 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tripodeca113
Is this porn?
Because it seems to really want to be porn.

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