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“America,” written by Gabby Rivera (Marvel Comics)

“The Backstagers,” written by James Tynion IV (BOOM! Studios)

“Batwoman,” written by Marguerite Bennett, James Tynion IV (DC Comics)

“Black Panther: World of Wakanda,” written by Roxane Gay, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Yona Harvey, Rembert Browne (Marvel Comics)

“Deadman: Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love," written by Sarah Vaughn (DC Comics)

“Goldie Vance,” written by Hope Larson, Jackie Ball (BOOM! Studios)

“Iceman,” written by Sina Grace (Marvel Comics)

“Lumberjanes,” written by Kate Leth, Shannon Watters (BOOM! Studios)

“Quantum Teens Are Go,” written by Magdalene Visaggio (Black Mask Comics)

“The Woods,” written by James Tynion IV (BOOM! Studios)

Full nominees are listed here.

Date: 2018-01-20 01:23 am (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
You know, just because America features a queer protagonist, you shouldn't feel obligated to nominate it.

Date: 2018-01-20 02:33 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
A weird thing is, it's apparently doing well in digital, It won a Comixology reader's choice 'best new series' nod so... it found an audience? Maybe the author's YA novel fans follows it.
Edited Date: 2018-01-20 02:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-20 06:30 am (UTC)
ericadawn16: (Naughty)
From: [personal profile] ericadawn16
I'm glad they did Black Panther: The World of Wakanda, that one was worthy.

Date: 2018-01-20 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] balbanes
Did "America" get good after I stopped reading it (around issue #2)? Because I really wanted to like that title, but found the storytelling awful.

Date: 2018-01-20 02:36 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I have no idea! Comixology's readers choice named it as a best-new-series so someone's really like it, it seems. Which is kinda odd since this community tends to leap on every LGBT book 'cept for that one, but I haven't seen comments since the early ones either, sooo... *shrug*

Date: 2018-01-20 05:02 am (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
She stuck around for two issues and moved on.

Date: 2018-01-20 06:27 am (UTC)
ericadawn16: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ericadawn16
It was because it was a crossover with her Kate Bishop. Yeah, I enjoyed the arc, then I dumped it again. Now Kelly Thompson's signed an exclusive deal with Marvel.

Date: 2018-01-20 01:27 am (UTC)
thanekos: Lora, crafting. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Boom, huh?

Date: 2018-01-20 06:29 am (UTC)
ericadawn16: (Jubilant)
From: [personal profile] ericadawn16

Take that people who think LGBT can't be all ages!

Date: 2018-01-20 06:32 am (UTC)
ericadawn16: (Curious)
From: [personal profile] ericadawn16
Hmm, I've read five of them, which ones were your favorites?

Date: 2018-01-20 07:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Batwoman and Lumberjanes are the only ones I've read, and I had issues both mental and physical which kept me from reading anything as complex as superhero comics for a while, so I fell way behind on Batwoman and can't comment on it.

But Lumberjanes is entirely faboo.

Date: 2018-01-21 09:15 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
I like Batwoman a lot. The art is great. Iceman was fun and I liked the BP spinoff.

Date: 2018-01-22 07:50 pm (UTC)
penguinzero: (Default)
From: [personal profile] penguinzero
Goldie Vance was my favorite out of all of the ones I've read. It was a cheerful, high-energy teen mystery series with an adorable relationship between the heroine and her girlfriend.

Date: 2018-01-20 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Maybe I'm just being an ignorant straight guy but aren't the GLAAD awards supposed to be for positive representation of LGBT characters? It looks like the bar has been lowered to "has gay characters". I mean the the Marvel nominees alone consist of one book where nothing ever happens, one agressively terrible comic, and one book I can't judge because I haven't read it yet.

Good for Boom though. They've always made great stuff.

Date: 2018-01-20 12:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
The Woods was outstanding, glad to see some recognition.

Date: 2018-01-20 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] onsokumaru
2016: New Avengers, the only Marvel team including a gay couple as members. Not nominated.
2017: USAvengers, the only Marvel team including a lesbian couple as members. Not Nominated.

I feel bad for Ewing.

Date: 2018-01-20 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I don't think we're supposed to acknowledge Marvel's good books anymore. Here, have an award, America and Iceman.
Edited Date: 2018-01-20 04:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-21 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I liked Iceman, it was fairly enjoyable and the dialogue was not nearly as clunky as America

Date: 2018-01-21 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I wasn't crazy about what Bendis did with him but he's one of my favorite X-Men so I figured I'd give it a chance.

There are a lot of things you can do with a newly outed Iceman on top of the kinds of things we already wanted from an Iceman comic. Instead Sina Grace has decided to pad things out so much that it reads like an early Joe Q era series.

The first issue sets up things like reconciling with exes (has that happened with anyone but Kitty yet?) and coming out to his parents (it took four issues?). People who bought the floppies paid 16 bucks for something that should have happened in issue one.

Instead he spent issue one writing a dating profile and fighting a forgettable supervillain. That's not exactly riviting storytelling.

I think Sina has a pretty good grasp of Bobby's voice (though I wish he was funnier) but the pacing is ...so...freaking....slow.

Date: 2018-01-21 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Also I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have a gay Iceman and he isn't dating Hercules then you're doing it wrong.

As it is I'm worried they're going to eventually pull a Black Panther / Storm and randomly pair Iceman up with Northstar (husband? What husband?).

Date: 2018-01-29 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
That's not a Black Panther/Storm so much as a Batwoman/Maggie Sawyer.

Date: 2018-01-29 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
Well, it's both. Either way, I find that kind of thing annoying. It's better to make up a new character than to make it seem like there are only two characters in a given category in your setting.

Date: 2018-01-29 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Eh, pick whichever hastily thrown together couple you want.

(I was under the impression they'd done more groundwork with Kate and Maggie but I've really mostly just read the early Rucka Batwoman stuff)

Date: 2018-01-21 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I agree that the pacing was really slow in the first few issues. But I think Sina found his stride around issue 4. Everything since then has been pretty good, there have been better supervillains and more interesting storylines.

And I feel like taking a while to come out to his parents was warranted considering how poorly they took it. And the awkward family dinner with them where they were trying get a do over with Young Bobby was pretty great.

I don't really care all that much for human boyfriend so far, but I do recognize the merits of having someone outside of the superhuman community for Bobby to date. And I also wish they'd write Hercules as bisexual, the most unbelievable thing to occur in this series was the Champions going to that gay bar in West Hollywood and Hercules didn't immediately get mobbed.

Date: 2018-01-21 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Maybe I'll binge a year of it on Unlimited or wait for the next 80% off Kindle sale. It probably reads better in big chunks. Lots of Marvel books over the last couple decades have been so padded that they are unsatisfying as single issues but this may be the worst offender I've seen since Bruce Jones' Hulk.

I don't mind a hero with a non-powered love interest but - given Marvel's treatment of Peter/MJ, Bruce/Betty, Matt/everyone, ect - I think Marvel has a problem with it so there is no reason to get invested.

(Also I love that we can have a friendly debate on the merits of Iceman's comic and no one has anything positive to say about America.)
Edited Date: 2018-01-21 10:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-21 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I'd say a lot of Bendis' recent work (Defenders, Invincible Iron Man, Uncanny X-Men) has been much more decompressed and unsatisfying. Remember that year long Last Will and Testament of Xavier arc that went so long that Wolverine was alive at the beginning but dead by the end?

Date: 2018-01-22 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I'm so resigned to it with Bendis that I barely think about it any more.

Sorry to hear about Defenders, I would have thought that would be a return to what he does well.

Date: 2018-01-22 01:38 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
That also happened with the first two tpb collections of Jessica Jones. It was awful. I don't know if it's house style or what, but even current stories I like seem really decompressed.

Date: 2018-01-21 09:07 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
I liked Iceman and found America unreadable, yeah. Which was a shame, I loved Ewing's take on her in Ultimates. He writes diverse characters really well.

Date: 2018-01-22 06:08 am (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Ewing writes pretty much every kind of character well (though I must admit, Royals is not my cup of tea).

America was also possibly the best part of Kieron Gillen's Young Avengers run. She's really been an outstanding character everywhere I've seen her until she got her own book, at which point she jumped in the back of Thelma & Louise's convertible and sailed off a cliff.

I've not been happy with the Iceman book. While the quieter interpersonal stuff is okay the super heroics are some of the most hackneyed, contrived narratives I've seen in recent memory.

Date: 2018-01-22 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
In fairness, when Joe Casey introduced America she was just a forgettable background character. Kieron Gillen and Al Ewing made the character interesting. She's really only been handled by four writers and the quality has been 50/50.

Date: 2018-01-22 01:35 pm (UTC)
kore: (Karla - problems)
From: [personal profile] kore
Ewing really does write everything well! He got me to read about the Inhumans and Red Hulk 2.0, which is not something anyone else could probably do. He's also great with retcon, continuity and backstory. I wish it was just him on the big Avengers event.

America was also possibly the best part of Kieron Gillen's Young Avengers run. She's really been an outstanding character everywhere I've seen her until she got her own book

ARGH. -- I'd missed that Gillen book, I'll have to check it out! I know him through WicDiv mainly.

Date: 2018-01-22 06:14 am (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Really, how could it have been? The America series' dialogue made John Byrne villain monologues sound fluid and natural by comparison.

If the Iceman series had *just* concentrated on Bobby's personal journey and relationships it might have been good, but those narratives always got interrupted by ridiculously contrived super villain attacks. I think Grace should be writing telenovelas, not comics.

Date: 2018-01-22 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I liked the interpersonal relationships in Iceman too

But aren't ridiculously coincidental super villain attacks that interrupt the relationship drama just a conceit of the genre?

Date: 2018-01-22 11:38 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I can handwave it away when the conceit is happening at the Baxter Building or Avengers Mansion. When super villains attack nearby residential streets and small businesses whenever Bobby is about to talk to his parents or new maybe-boyfriend, it's an ice bridge too far.

Date: 2018-01-23 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
But Iceman was the target of two of those attacks.

The Purifiers attacked his parents home because he'd interrupted one of their lynchings in the first issue.
And those fake sentinels attacked that bar because Bobby was there, he'd attacked their creator first because she was building fake sentinels.

Bobby and his parents were at the Institute in the middle of Central Park when he left to fight the Juggernaut.

Date: 2018-01-21 09:04 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Both of those were great depictions, too -- Ewing writes actual characters, not walking collections of attributes.

Date: 2018-01-21 09:14 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
And the punchline is all of Marvel's nominated comics have been cancelled. Including the two Ewing books someone else mentioned, which had canon gay couples. :-/


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