Date: 2018-01-20 11:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Ooh. Good Cap story.

Date: 2018-01-21 12:44 am (UTC)
doctor_spanky: (Default)
From: [personal profile] doctor_spanky
hear hear

Date: 2018-01-21 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ya know, I hated Secret Empire, thought the execution sucked worse than the idea, but...

I really dislike how that's all been ignored by Waid. You'd never know that the story even happened from the first issue to the latest.

Why should we care about any changes or revelations about a character when the next writer is allowed to be so dismissive of what came before?

Date: 2018-01-21 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jgeils
You mean like when Walt Simonson took over Fantasic Four in the early 90's? What came before was so bad that the writer wrote under the pseudonym John Harkness.

Heck, from what little I remember of Captain America when Grunewald passed the title to Mark Waid for his 1st short run, Try had a dying Cap disappear (probably due to the magic of Black Crow?) AFAIK, Waid never addressed that at all.

Date: 2018-01-21 05:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
I'm the exact opposite. I enjoyed Secret Empire a great deal but have no issue with Waid not addressing it.

In his first issue, it's mentioned that there are huge swathes of the population that still don't trust Cap. The idea's supposed to be that we're just not seeing those swathes. That's good enough for me.

Date: 2018-01-21 04:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Is the Swordsman really such a great concept that people continually feel the need to "take up the mantle"?

I mean seriously, there's been like four of them ever since the original died. The one from a parallel Earth that popped up during the Crossing, the time Andrea van Strucker assumed the role (with a sword hilt wrapped in his own dead sister's flesh!), the female version seen in Euroforce (supposedly his daughter), and now this yahoo.

And am I the only one who now wants to see a comic featuring the daughters of Swordsman, Batroc, and Tarantula? How many other adult daughters of supervillains are running around (who've taken up their dad's mantle, rather than create their own?)

Actually, it's a really weird thing in general that we're seeing so many supervillains with grown, adult-age children, when the heroes they fight have remained much younger for the most part...

Date: 2018-01-21 05:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
I don't know about the concept, but it's at least a great name. I can see why comic folks wouldn't want it to go to waste.

Date: 2018-01-21 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
And if you're going to call yourself Swordsman, you've *got* to wear a purple costume and fight Captain America.

Seriously though, didn't Swordsman have a tendency to take folks under his wing and train them as costumed criminals? Maybe this guy was an alumnus of that program.

Date: 2018-01-21 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] michaelhealy
If your gimmick is a sword of course you're going to fight the guy who's gimmick is a shield.

Date: 2018-01-21 01:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skjam
You (Swordsman) should also fight Hawkeye at some point.

Date: 2018-01-21 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I will defend a lot of the original "joke" villains but I never got why other people needed to copy them.

I mean even Slit-Man actually has potential if you remember (a) he's a thief, not a fighter, (b) he was introduced before everyone and their mother could fly, and (c) he actually has a pretty good track record against Spider-Man (pity he's a Daredevil villain). That doesn't change that he's seen as ridiculous in-universe. Why would you have several copycat Stilt-Men (and "Lady Stilt-Men") emulating someone nobody took seriously the first time around? How many Kangaroos and Swordsmen does the world need?

Date: 2018-01-21 07:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Taking a legacy saves the effort of having to try and build a brand. You do *one* thing and it's 'the new X!'

Date: 2018-01-21 07:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
Awesome art.

Date: 2018-01-21 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
shouldn't the sword have cut through the pipe?

Date: 2018-01-23 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Cap! My hero!


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