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And this time it's thanks to one of their artists...

The current artist on Cable, Jon Malin, has a  definition of SJW's is... challenging, as outlined from an actual tweet.

He was involved in a discussion about the impact of "Social Justice Warriors" on the comics industry., when it was pointed out that the X-Men could be viewed as ACTUAL Social Justice Warriors, since they combat racism and discrimination on behalf of opressed minorities!

I have no words that convey the sheer level of "WTF?" that this creates.

Yes, in terms of oppressed minorities, the X-Men perhaps do work as an analogy for the Jews in Hitler's Germany, as they are in the middle of a societal structure seeking to "other" them and target them for elimination, but I don't think I can even parse the rest of the sentence. Nazi's were Social Justice Warriors? I mean... really?

It doubles down a little, but you can see that at the linked article because I don't think I can bring myself to post that.

Date: 2018-01-23 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] balbanes
Go home, Malin. You're drunk.

Date: 2018-01-23 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] owlbrigade1
I wish I was.

I keep drinking to forget, but the world keeps on reminding me why I started to drink.

This... Just. Ugh.

Yeah. Just, ugh.

Date: 2018-01-23 04:38 am (UTC)
freezer: (Clearly A Dick)
From: [personal profile] freezer
I am currently drunk (or at least, heavily buzzed), and I'm still all "That was stupid and you should feel stupid."

Date: 2018-01-23 01:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-23 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Glad this guy is the artist and not the writer, given his clear deep understanding of the franchise.

Date: 2018-01-23 01:33 am (UTC)
alicemacher: Lisa Winklemeyer from the webcomic Penny and Aggie, c2004-2011 G. Lagacé, T Campbell (Default)
From: [personal profile] alicemacher
The sound you hear is the syllogism being twisted to its breaking point and beyond. It would make just as much sense to say "Soaps aren't combs but combs are soaps and Dial™ is not a soap."

Date: 2018-01-23 01:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] roxas832
I imagine it's hard getting work as the diet coke version of Rob Liefeld. Guess he's reaching out to the alt-right crowd....

Date: 2018-01-23 01:35 am (UTC)
informationgeek: (lyra)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
I was going to post this tomorrow but yeah, the quality of his thoughts are as good as the quality of his art, not very good.

Just, what the fuck?

Date: 2018-01-23 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
I was trying to make sense of this comment, but then I realized I already understood enough to know I didn’t care what he had to say.

Date: 2018-01-23 09:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray

Date: 2018-01-23 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
hey, look. someone working for the company who doesn't understand Hydra are nazis doesn't understand what an SJW and a Nazi are. shocker.

Date: 2018-01-23 02:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
For the record, this guy is a freelancer who just ended his latest work (Cable, for those who care) and during his latest EVS interview listed nothing Marvel related as an upcoming project. Expect Marvel to distance themselves as far as possible from this guy faster than you can say "Ardian Syaf".

Date: 2018-01-23 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Man. I start to feel sorry for whoever works at Marvel's PR department. They can't catch a break.

Date: 2018-01-23 05:13 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
PR GUY: remember that list of things we gave you guys of what NOT to say. Well. we changed tactics, here are things you CAN say...

five minuets later: Marvel writer says babies deserve AIDS and gay people are Nazis sent by the devil. also white people are misunderstood.

PR GUY: OK I QUIT. DC doesn't have this many issues.....

Date: 2018-01-23 06:36 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Hah, sort of like some of the things I hear about Trump's aides.

Date: 2018-01-23 02:13 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Well this guy just invoked Godwin which Nick Spencer does before breakfast. Syaf inserted actual hate speech in a comic.

Date: 2018-01-23 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Sure, but Spencer, love him or hate him, has done enough of value for Marvel to be considered more of an asset than liability. This guy wrote like 15 issues for them, 11 of which are from a Thunderbolts series that was butt of the joke due his shitty art (and not Squirrel Girl some love/hate kind, the "everybody at best tolerates it" kind). Also, dude just went on saying how much current Marvel creators suck and agree or disagree, that's not something that ensures
you being around to change that. Most damningly of all, CBR just ran article about him and CBR... let's just say, ain't the kind of site to do that if they think he's gonna stay.

Date: 2018-01-23 06:43 pm (UTC)
kore: (Karla - problems)
From: [personal profile] kore
Jon Malin pencilled eleven issues of Thunderbolts. Jim Zub wrote it, except for the story in the 20th anniversary edition by Busiek and Bagley.

Date: 2018-01-23 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Yeah? I know?

Date: 2018-01-24 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Wait, shit, I DID write he "wrote" 15 issues. I meant he "made", I mean, I woudln't be saying it was the ART that was the problem otherwise. My bad, sorry.

Date: 2018-01-24 01:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
You can dislike Spencer all you want, but this isn't close to anything he talked about on his Twitter. He doesn't even have one anymore anyway.
Edited Date: 2018-01-24 01:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-23 02:15 am (UTC)
berani00: Shade the Changing Man (Default)
From: [personal profile] berani00
Uhhhh... He does realise the X-Men are actuallly fighting for social justice, and not like that, weird agenda at Marvel I called such and won't name again, right?

Date: 2018-01-23 04:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Nope, he seems to be one of the people who redefines the ideology of characters they like in their heads no matter how little sense it makes.

The X-men being for social justice is... not subtle.

Date: 2018-01-23 02:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] spider_man6
Man. This guy already was in hot water for that bad costume for Blink, and now this? Good thing I went to DC AND Image.

Date: 2018-01-23 04:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
To be fair to Marvel, he's not one of their in-house people and one wouldn't normally expect to *have* to vet freelance artists for this kind of thing.

Date: 2018-01-23 08:13 am (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Yep, at DC you only have Ethan Van Sciver and the (unrelated) culture that kept women out of the Superman office to worry about

Date: 2018-01-23 08:21 am (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
What’s wrong with Blink’s new costume?

Date: 2018-01-23 09:01 am (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
It's a push up bra that gives her boobs bigger than her head

Date: 2018-01-23 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] onsokumaru
What's wrong with Blink's new costume?


Date: 2018-01-23 08:43 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I’m talking about this one, specifically. Is this what we’re both thinking of? If so, I thought that was meant to invoke her look in X-Men: Days of Future Past/The Gifted.


Date: 2018-01-23 08:48 pm (UTC)
flint_marko: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
No, google Blink Malin to see what they're talking about.


Date: 2018-01-23 10:57 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Forget the oversized boobs...how the shit is that thing not a constant wardrobe malfunction? It's as bad as the worst of Dagger and Emma Frost's costumes....

Date: 2018-01-23 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] balbanes
Something something unstable molecules?

Yeah, that thing is hideous and stupid. Ugh.

Date: 2018-01-23 02:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
Wow. I saw the first tweet last night, but had not seen any of his followups. And never heard of the Dark City stuff. Yikes.

Date: 2018-01-23 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
so in this guys;s world Nazis and anti-Nazis are the same

Date: 2018-01-23 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Look, I'm kinda in between on the whole larger discourse... Like, I don't think "SJWs are ruining everything" but I think you gotta be willfully ignorant to deny some people are taking issues or perceived issues beyond any sort of reason-but this does continues to prove to me "social justice warriors" and "political correctness" are little more than just buzzwords that mean whatever person dislikes.

Date: 2018-01-23 04:44 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
wait... what?
See My Reaction:

Date: 2018-01-23 06:34 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Maybe his art was shitty for a reason! https://www.cbr.com/malin-thunderbolts-alt-right/

Date: 2018-01-23 09:14 pm (UTC)
tripodeca113: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tripodeca113
If writers didn't have social media accounts it would be harder to learn about these sort of views.

Date: 2018-01-23 10:18 pm (UTC)
lizard_of_aus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lizard_of_aus
Hundreds of years from now, these tweets will get put on trivia pages for history buffs to gawk and snigger at, much like roman graffiti.

Date: 2018-01-24 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
I'm not saying I agree with him, but I have encountered a vocal section of SJWs who believe that unless you support their causes in the way they choose, you are as bad as those they speak out against.
as an example, look at the backlash against Matt Damon, when he said that child molestation and sexual harassment are both bad, but not only are they not on the same level, they shouldn't be treated as if they are.

Date: 2018-01-24 01:16 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
You don't agree with him, but you are using the term SJW?

Date: 2018-01-24 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
I don't see the contradiction.


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