Date: 2018-01-30 04:05 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Lora, crafting. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Emma and Namor's expressions in the panel before Daken gets palmed into the floor're great.

Date: 2018-01-30 04:22 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
heh.

Date: 2018-01-30 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goattoucher
So: Regeneration.

When they introduced in with Wolverine in the 70's. it was a way to have him take a lot of damage and come back, but you couldn't have it be -too- gross, so he was given an adamantium skeleton to make sure he would not get cut into paces.

Between there and here, you had Madcap, who would be dismembered and even dismember himself, but it was entirely bloodless. they started to stretch those boundaries with Deadpool, but the edge was taken off by his goofy demeanor.

Now you have a herd of proto-Wolverines in the form of Daken, Laura, and Gabby. All of them regenerate, but none of them have durable skeletons. Nevertheless, you never see them getting dismembered, or suffering the large scale tissue damage Logan suffered with fair regularity.

Here, we see Daken, who has a skull of unexceptional durability, get smashed into the ground headfirst by super-strong Emma.

Why doesn't his head come open like an overripe cantaloupe? Can these people regenerate brain damage? what impact would it have on their memory and personality?

I'm curious.

Date: 2018-01-30 05:35 pm (UTC)
roxas832: (Default)
From: [personal profile] roxas832
Does Emma's diamond form give her super strength?

Date: 2018-01-31 05:26 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
But do the writers/editors know that?

Date: 2018-01-31 08:41 am (UTC)
goattoucher: (Zillapalm)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
That is from the official marvel website, so...

..I honestly couldn't say.

Date: 2018-01-30 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I miss brilliant Scott and Badass Emma....

Date: 2018-01-30 04:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I miss them so much.

Date: 2018-01-30 09:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dragontail
Thirded.

Date: 2018-01-30 05:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] roxas832
In the panel where Namor smashes Mimic into the wall, he looks a lot like the Nimoy Spock.

Date: 2018-01-30 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Gotta wonder why they didn't at least try to recruit Mimic. He's not perfect, but I doubt he likes Norman any more than the rest.

Date: 2018-01-30 09:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goattoucher
I thought he was friends with the X-Men...

Date: 2018-01-31 01:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Mimic can't leave. Or at least he can't leave without abandoning his best (only?) friend Weapon Omega to Norman Osborn.

Osborn got Omega addicted to siphoning the powers of mutants using his machine.

Date: 2018-01-31 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I don't think Mimic and Weapon Omega were best friends at this point, they'd have only just met like a week before. I'm not even sure if they had any conversations on panel, so I don't think that would be a reason to not even try to recruit him here.

They were best friends by the time they reappeared in X-men Legacy a few years later, since by that point they were the last two remaining members of this team and had gone through the Dark X-men mini together.

Date: 2018-01-31 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
Yes, Mimic was one of the original X-Men. I think he was the X-Men field leader before Scott. It kind of took me a bit out of the story that they'd recruit Cloak and Dagger, but a member of the original X-Men would just get his face smashed in.

Of course, Mimic is not a mutant. While at this point they think Cloak and Dagger are. That's more than a bit racist of them.

Also, I am not sure how Namor managed to take out the Mimic. This is not Exiles Mimic, its 616, and he is massively more powerful than the Exiles version. He has all the powers, skills and abilities of everyone, mutant or not, within a couple of miles. So at the very least we are looing at the stacked strength, recovery and durability of Namor, Wolverine, Daken, Venom, Ms. Marvel and Thunderbird.

Date: 2018-01-31 02:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
So I did some reading around on this, as I wondering about it. Mimic is....complicated.

Writers have gone back and forth with him. Originally, he would have been considered a mutate, but as Emma even lampshades about it, 'there's some question'. It's been put forth at one point that his father's experiments merely triggered his mutant ability, but I don't know if that's ever been accepted. I think its considered murky, but his orbit has always been the X-Men.

Originally, he could absorb non-mutant abilities, such as athletics and intelligence, but I'm pretty sure that faded to the wayside after his earliest appearances. His prolonged exposure to the original five X-Men apparently perma-imprinted their powers on him....but we rarely see him use them effectively. On multiple occasions, his powers have malfunctioned or overwhelmed him and I suspect writers basically shut him down, because otherwise he would be ridiculously powerful. In story, I'd argue he's either manually keeping his powers tamped down to keep them under control OR something like SPIN-tech has been introduced to limit his powers for his (and others) safety. IIRC, he accidentally killed someone when his optic-blasts returned unbidden.

That said, he's never been afforded the same status as, say, the Super Skrull. If anything, his powers appear to be at the silver age O5 power levels...otherwise he should be a terror. Iceman's powers combined with telepathy, telekinesis, super agility, flight and the ability to protect force beams should be pretty freaking effective.

Date: 2018-01-31 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
He should absolutely be a team-wrecker. One of the things about his power though, is that he can't shut it down. He almost died when absorbing power from the Hulk, which he reacts very badly to. Hank spent months in the wilderness with him trying to save him.

Hes been messed up after that by involuntarily mimicking powers such as Sunspots.

He can over load, which is why flittering around Utopia is pretty risky for him. He could be defeated by moving him so close to all the mutants that he goes down spectacularly. Or Rogue could borrow a Hulks power but stay in human form, poisoning him.

SPIN-limiting his power is a very good idea though. Might well be the case.

Any way, to me the whole lack of acknowledgment of his history with the X-men indicates that some writer didn't read up on him.



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