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Warner Bros. Television and DC Entertainment today announced that Gotham executive producers John Stephens and Danny Cannon will explore the world of Metropolis in an all-new live-action drama series to air exclusively on the upcoming DC-branded direct-to-consumer digital service, operated by Warner Bros. Digital Networks. Metropolis has received a direct-to-series order for a first season of 13 episodes and will go into production later this year for a debut on the service in 2019.

Set in the wondrous and awe-inspiring City of Tomorrow before the arrival of Superman, Metropolis follows Lois Lane and Lex Luthor as they investigate the world of fringe science and expose the city’s dark and bizarre secrets.

John Stephens (Gotham, Gossip Girl, The O.C., Gilmore Girls) and Danny Cannon (Gotham, Nikita, CSI series) are the executive producers of Metropolis. Danny Cannon will direct the first episode, from a teleplay by John Stephens, with story by Cannon and Stephens.

Date: 2018-01-30 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nightauditguy
I'm curious about this but it's another streaming service that I really don't want to pay for.

Date: 2018-01-30 07:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
I don't see this working as well as Gotham for a number of reasons.

Batman might not be in Gotham (as a lot of detractors point out) but Bruce Wayne is and the show has done a solid job of working as an origin story for him and I'd daresay it's one of the best takes on the character so far. So for here I'm not entirely sure how cutting out the central hero entirely is going to work.

That and Superman really doesn't have the same level of iconic characters as Batman does that I could see carrying the show by themselves in his absence. Then again Gotham made Penguin the best character in the show so who knows.

Date: 2018-01-30 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
In that sense. Superman may not be in Metropolis, but Lois Lane is. and I do think she could be able to carry the show on her own.

it also reminds me of something I heard about the production of Superman TAS vs. Batman TAS. Because Superman did not have as huge a rogue gallery as Batman's, the staff opted for experimenting with more serailized storytelling.

Date: 2018-01-30 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Well with Bruce you have his journey of becoming Batman, I don't see what ongoing narrative you have for Lois by herself. Same with Lex Luthor, I don't see how you could do a good 'villain origin story' for him with Superman off in Krypton minding his own business.

Gotham would have been a total dud if it was just Gordon and Harvey solving cases, the early episodes when it was just that were the show's weakest. As it is he's probably the worst part of the show.
Edited Date: 2018-01-30 07:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-30 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Well, Superman would be in Smallville, not Krypton, unless they change things radically.

Date: 2018-01-30 11:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
I preferred Gotham when it was Gordon and Bullock solving cases (and not murdering people). If the creators wanted to have the full rogue gallery running around the city, they should've just made a full Batman show, rather than having every single villain pop up a good ten years before the Dark Knight. So much for the theory that the escalation of super-villains being in response to Batman.

Date: 2018-01-31 01:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
That's been my ongoing issue with Gotham. If Gotham has survived all these villains without Batman, what does Batman add to the city?

Date: 2018-01-31 06:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Well there's really no perfect solution, because a show just about Gordon with no real Bat characters would probably not do that well. And likewise if you have Batman running around people would wonder why you're not focusing on Gordon instead.

IMO the only thing that potentially suffers without an adult Batman is if they ever do an origin story for Two-Face (which probably won't happen unless they recast him) given how Bruce being his peer is a big part. Likewise I think not having Batman be part of Joker's origin (if Jerome is Joker) cheapens it a bit although they did do a good job of having them clash.

Date: 2018-01-31 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
The solution to that is simple, I think. Have the bulk of the show be about Lois investigating and ultimately dismantling LexCorp, so that when Superman finally comes on the scene, he's facing down Mad Scientist, Not-A-Shred-Of-Respectability-To-His-Name "Classic" Lex.

(Admittedly, this might stem from my general distaste for CEO!Lex as an outright Superman foe. That sort of enemy works against an underdog like Daredevil - indeed, I'm neither the first nor last to think of CEO!Lex as Kingpin-lite - but "underdog" is probably the last word anyone should be applying to freakin' Superman.)

Date: 2018-01-30 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
I don't know. I still feel like Gotham is objectively a hot mess of a show premise. And yet I enjoy this. So, I mean, I'm not going to get a new streaming service for this, but if it pops up on Hulu or Netflix I'll probably give it a go.

Date: 2018-01-31 05:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
The pitch for this sounds amazing. Lois and Lex teaming up to solve weird crimes, like an X-Files with a sinister hairless Mulder, is absolutely something I'd like to watch.

On the other hand, Gotham was pitched to me as Gordon and Bullock teaming up to solve weird crimes, and look where that went.

So I'm skeptical.

Date: 2018-01-31 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
I mean, if you pitched Gotham as "Gordon and Bullock solve weird crimes, but also Alfred sometimes punches people. And Bruce is in it sometimes, and he's fine. It's okay. He's fine. Most of the time. But he does provide a good excuse for Alfred to punch people. Oh, and the Penguin's in it, and, like, you're going to care about him? On and off anyways. Oh, and sometimes Jada Pinkett Smith will show up with her All Punk Rock Army," that would be closer.

Date: 2018-01-30 09:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
If I haven't read this fic, I've read authors who'd write this fic.

Date: 2018-01-30 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Wait, so Superman is getting TWO prequel shows AT THE SAME TIME, after already having one that ran for ten years?

I really don't get this pop-cultural obsession with prequeling. Why is it that everybody wants to make movies and TV shows out of something the original thought was too boring to get into? And even just straight up adaptations for some reason take iconic elements that were there from the get go and need to "build up" to them (we can't just have Star city be called Star city from the get go, we need to show you the backstory of how it happened), culminating in Fanf4rstic spending the entire movie just telling their origin.

Date: 2018-01-31 12:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
As someone who watch Smallvile, you have to ask how much of those 10 years meant something altogether... like with Charmed, alot of stuff was just either filler, beating around the bush, and just TV Emmy drama... come to think of it, what about the comic book spin off series?

And what about shows that sort of "start in the middle" where characters are already well establish with no real proper intro, but save the intro in the middle just to either pay off for the finale or just throwing in there? This seems to just happen in animated shows. Like what they did with Generator Rex, Teen Titans, Danny Phantom, and Miraculous Ladybug and Cat Noir.... what do you call that? ANd why?

Date: 2018-01-31 02:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mistersandman
I imagine idea is to have fully formed characters and team dynamics to make the show interesting for viewers (kids) who might not be interested in longform serialized narratives. Doing a proper origin near the end of the series is just fanservice.

And the fancy literary term for starting in the middle of a story is in media res.

Date: 2018-01-31 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Why call that anything (besides "good idea")? That makes perfect sense. It tells you what is going on, who these people are and why you should care and only gets into backstory when it's actually relevant.

Date: 2018-01-31 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Charmed later seasons suffered because of the actresses having become producers and using the show to live their fantasies (which is why you have stuff like Phoebe making THE BEST love columns ever, so much so that rich guys fall to their knees at the sight of her...).

As for the latter, i believe it is called "In Media Res".
Power Ranger Samurai did try that... and by that I mean they made the last minute change of airing the third episode first and air the first and second episode long after that as a speical or something.

Date: 2018-01-31 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
Because writing a prequel is the best way to make one's mark on the characters and storyline, much like any predator marking their territory and with the same regard for what they're pissing on.

Date: 2018-01-31 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
My theory is because that way you can have younger (read: early 20s) characters. Both to catch the attention of the YA audience and because it is easier to have a ten seasons "plan" if you have younger actors as the leads.

Date: 2018-01-31 05:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
No thanks. I'm tired of waiting around for the hero to show up. Did that for 10 years with Smallville.

Date: 2018-01-31 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
I don't know what you are talking about. They say right there: Lois Lane is confirmed to be involved from day one :P
Edited Date: 2018-01-31 09:38 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-31 08:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
Between this and Gotham, I've gotta know. Why not just do Batman and Superman shows? You could explore the characters of Lois Lane and Jim Gordon and whoever else just fine with the superheroes they are associated with around. Heck, you could actually develop them in creative ways instead of having to inevitably work towards their 'destiny'.

I mean, I know actual Superman and Batman shows would be competition for Supergirl and Arrow (or Batman in a Robin Hood costume, as I like to call the CW version of Ollie), but I think they could take it.

Date: 2018-02-02 04:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
Production costs?

Date: 2018-02-02 05:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
Except they make Arrow and Supergirl, which logically have almost the same production costs Batman and Superman shows would have.


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