Date: 2018-01-31 09:30 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Lora, crafting. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
" Did you think you two invented castling? " and " I just hit you with the planet. " almost justifies everything that led up to that.

Date: 2018-02-01 05:49 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
The "hit you with the planet" thing made me roll my eyes. Carter is the perfect person to do a surprise takedown of Superman without springing some godawfully powerful deus ex machina tech that'll be swiftly forgotten—he's an archaeologist in a world whose history is filled with magic and wizards! Surely he could have dug up an enchanted Roman aklys or a shillelagh made from one of Blackbriar thorn's cast-off limbs or something that would KO Superman without making him ridiculously overpowered against his own villains.

Date: 2018-01-31 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trooper924
Ed McGuinness' art is one of those things where I can't decide if I like it or hate it.
Edited Date: 2018-01-31 09:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-02-01 05:08 am (UTC)
joetuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] joetuss
I think his style goes flawlessly with big beefy characters, like Superman, Hulk, and Thor.

Date: 2018-01-31 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucean
I had completely forgotten that Loeb's story basically requires Batman not to be aware who Captain Marvel is. I still remember when I first read Superman/Batman as it was coming out and I had been so excited for it. For me, it is the first comic book that truly disappointed me to the point where I think kept trying, and failing, to convince myself that maybe it wasn't that bad.

And not only did Loeb have Captain Marvel and Hawkman take out Superman and Batman with such relative ease, but then he had Bruce and Clark defeat the two off-panel. Writing it out reminds me that this was also the first time I felt anger at such extremely lazy writing.

Date: 2018-01-31 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Well, it won't get any better.

From what I remember, the story just gets dumber from here.

Which, I have to say, is an impressive feat.

Date: 2018-02-01 12:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
It's Loeb's law.

Date: 2018-02-01 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
That's like the cubed square law, but for stupid plot twists, right?

Like how mixing Kryptonite and venom is the perfect combo to take out Batman and Superman

Date: 2018-02-01 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
And then they turn it into a movie and it gets even stupider.

Date: 2018-02-01 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
How could they make it dumber? That would break physics!

Date: 2018-02-01 07:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucean
Oh, the movie was spectacular on that front. I started watching it thinking it couldn't get worse and just had to pause at several points out of astonishment.

If I recall correctly, the Hawkman/Captain Marvel fight is even more bizarre there.

Date: 2018-02-01 05:33 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
One word: MARTHA!

Date: 2018-02-01 02:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
Batman not knowing who Captain Marvel is (despite having been teammates with him previously and, ya know, being the World's Greatest Detective) is especially bad since a many years previous YJ issue established that Tim knows that Billy is Captain Marvel.

Date: 2018-02-01 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kd_the_movie
I don't know what edit came first but the text in my collected version of Public Enemies has Batman saying something to the effect of:

"Its easy to forget that Captain Marvel is actually Billy Batson, a boy around Robins age.." instead of "A Boy? around Robins age?"

and Additionally a text box that says "If Marvel changed back to Billy then he must be injured"

and the other text bubble reads

"Billy if you can hear me say something" instead of "if you can hear me tell me your name" which is a question that doesnt make any sense given the situation

Date: 2018-02-01 02:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
I love Amanda's "What the f--- just happened?" face and how she's literally speechless there after.

Also... good lord, this is extraordinarily dismissive of Starfire. Superman questions Superboy's judgement of her, Kara doesn't list her as someone they can trust...

I've always been a little surprised that Jeff wasn't in Luthor's cabinet specifically because Batman asked him to be, to be their man on the inside.

Date: 2018-02-01 11:52 pm (UTC)
zylly: (Stewie Head Tilt)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Oh no, I'm not going down that rabbit hole!

Date: 2018-02-01 09:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] christianconnor
Especially since it's not just Superboy's judgement he's questioning. It's Dick Grayson's - who was engaged to Kori. On that basis alone, Superman should trust Starfire over most other superheroes.

Date: 2018-02-01 11:53 pm (UTC)
zylly: (Atomic Robo Twitch)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Yeah. I had thought of that belatedly. That just makes it so much worse.

Date: 2018-02-01 03:11 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
And a friendly reminder, this was the culmination of the President Luthor Subplot.

This was what the whole President Luthor thing was leading up to.

Date: 2018-02-01 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Yup.

But!

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1712787/1/Power-Play

There is this excellent climax to the storyline, albeit fanfiction.

Date: 2018-02-01 04:57 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I like the idea that Hawkman is so old he INVENTED CHESS.

Date: 2018-02-01 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
I admit, back in the day, I came to the conclusion that 'Castling' was actually a plan for Marvel/Supes and Bat/Hawk to deliberately swap costumes and get in close to Lex. I mean, it makes more sense than anything else.

And why would ANY HEROES be working with Major Force? Really?

And how the hell did Lex get away with kissing Amanda and not get his face punched in?

*Sigh* And this was the story that ended President Luthor. All the story potential, all the plots of Lois and Clark working to expose the truth, Superman being forced by circumstances to work with Luthor at times... and it all ends with Lex going randomly stupid crazy.

Date: 2018-02-01 06:32 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Also, on the subject of Amanda Waller, whoever drew this, I assume, has never seen an overweight person.

I mean, I am overweight myself, I have seen many drawings of overweight people, some realistic, some not, but I'm pretty sure that the shape of Amanda Waller's body in this is not one that's possible in the real world. I'm also pretty sure no one in recorded history has ever had a muffin top ON THEIR NECK.

People are not salt and pepper shakers. I mean My god, Fukuro from One Piece is a better designed fat person in a suit, and he's a fucking freak of nature with an egg shaped body and a zipper for a mouth (And considering he's from One Piece that is saying something).

Date: 2018-02-01 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
I went to the Comments Section first, so my first thought at this post was "Nah, it couldn't possibly be that bad."

Then I scrolled up and CHAPAPA IT IS THAT FUCKING BAD. WORSE, EVEN.

Date: 2018-02-01 05:38 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Er, living in Arkansas I can tell you you're mistaken about the neck muffin top thing. However, I don't recall ever seeing someone with the body shape of a matryoshka doll.

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