Date: 2018-04-03 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
To me the 'Ultimate Galactus as robotic bugs' concept is one of those "if it's not broke, don't try to fix it" things.

Date: 2018-04-03 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I can *kind* of see what they were trying to do (in the early stages of the Ultimate Universe) in making it distinct, less gonzo (like the ambiguity whether or not Thor is a real god or merely a pretending) and more techno-thriller.

But then again, i thought the Ultimate Universe was generally more interesting when it deviated from 616 in various ways.

Date: 2018-04-03 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
Galactus doesn't lose too much in the translation to Gah Lak Tus - still a feared world-eater, still enormously inconceivable, still possessed of an incomprehensible morality, still heralded.

Date: 2018-04-03 08:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Well you could say the same about Uitimate Doom but they still took a classic villain and made him a guy with metal skin and goat legs who vomits robot bugs.

Date: 2018-04-04 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
I honestly felt "Swarm of Space-Robo-Bugs" Gah Lak Tus was one of the more clever bits from the Ultimate MU. Like something from Saberhagen's Berserker series.

Date: 2018-04-04 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
it doesn't really think though. For all the talk that Galactus is more a force of nature than a man, he's also a man. This thing, is just a thing

Date: 2018-04-04 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
The concept is fine, but the delivery stripped all the mystery away. Here we have Reed and the Kree predicting what Gah Lak Tus can do, in so much detail that Reed can run a reliable little B-movie simulation about it. And later, when Xavier contacts its mind, its morality goes from incomprehensible to "Ew gross, organics! I hate organics so much!" It's unbelievably petty.

Removing the anthropomorphic veneer should make Galactus more powerful, but this diminishes him.
Edited Date: 2018-04-04 06:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-04-03 08:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I'd say that seems to be the consensus by now, as the whole Gah Lak Tus trilogy doesn't tend to get the kind of fond mention that Ultimates or Ultimate Spider-Man do.

It's clear what Ellis was trying to do here, but even as someone who used to be a big Ellis fan, turning the singular cosmic drama of Galactus into posturing science/spy fiction which felt like an engaging but generally standard novel or film did not make for a particularly interesting story when compared to the original. I mean the Silver Surfer, on top of losing his board for wings, a frankly cowardly move made in the name of shaky realism, was reduced from an engaging lead who could parallel Milton's Lucifer, to collection of mindless drones.

Up until the Ultimate Universe as a whole fell apart, I think Gah Lak Tus was one of the bigger mistakes, a totally wrongheaded exercise in ditching originality and wonder for the trappings of faux realism.

Date: 2018-04-03 09:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bj_l
I'd say that last sentence is Ellis in a nutshell.

Date: 2018-04-03 10:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
I agree with everything you said, except for this being one of the bigger mistakes. It's up there, but the Ultimate Universe has SO MANY terrible ideas I'm not sure this cracks top 10.

Date: 2018-04-03 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
One thing I find interesting is that the Ultimates were partially predicated by the example set by Warren Ellis's Authority, which was then taken off the rails by succeeding writers after the original run. And here we have Warren Ellis doing his nebulously defined thing with some the off-the-rails Ultimates successors.

It just feels weirdly ironic.

Date: 2018-04-03 11:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
What's extra ironic is that Ellis's last Authority arc, against the giant alien "God", made for a better Galactus-type story than this did. That had a sense of cosmic wonder this trilogy needs.

Date: 2018-04-09 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
You know, this has traces of Ult!Reed after he went all Maker on everyone. "I made this program to show you how gruesomely everyone's gonna die! Oh, watch this bit here with the flesh eating virus!" Given how Gah Lak Tus never even reached Earth and never really got to deploy any tricks besides a Surfer Drone or two, a lot of that scene could be handwaved as Reed being a really creepy little shit at times.

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