Date: 2018-04-04 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
“Nobody blames the head” truer words have never been spoken

Date: 2018-04-04 07:54 pm (UTC)
goattoucher: (Kurt)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
Edited Date: 2018-04-04 08:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-04-04 07:45 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
So... did Molly take the cupcake or not?

Date: 2018-04-04 08:13 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Does this mean that Power Pack went public at some point? I guess they never were very good at hiding their secret identities... "Let's see, these four superhuman kids named Power Pack manage to line up exactly with these four siblings with the last name of Power in terms of age and appearance. Ya think...?" Especially when they rarely wore masks, Alex eventually joined the Future Foundation, and I'm pretty sure Julie registered with the Initiative. (Was Alex's identity perhaps leaked when Hindsight leaked other New Warriors' identities to the public during Civil War?)

I just don't recall the part where, if ever, they stopped trying to keep things a secret.

Date: 2018-04-04 08:50 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
I recall that the Boogey Man outed them to their parents during Inferno, and that was kind of bad for the parents because the Power Pack were using some hypnotic suggestion or something on them to cover their secret ID"s, so their parents couldn't deal with knowing the truth, but then they pulled some trick to make them think they were aliens impersonating their kids and had like holograms of themselves come in or something so they could reestablish the secret ID and... I don't even fucking know its weird. Mainly the only Power Pack stories I care about are those miniseries they periodically put out about them.

Date: 2018-04-05 11:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It's possible, especially as Alex had once been in the New Warriors and the entire membership were basically doxxed post the Stamford excplosion by former member and bizarrely retconned vengeful asshole Hindsight Lad.

But we've seen Julie, Jack and Katie quite recently and though they've more or less retired, they seemed to still keep things on the downlow about their heroic ID's.

Date: 2018-04-05 09:01 pm (UTC)
liliaeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liliaeth
Well it's not like Power Pack where ever the best known superheroes out there.

Date: 2018-04-04 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
MAN, shes grown up. Power Pack reunions with Franklin must be awkward, hes going to be a lot younger than everyone else by now.

Date: 2018-04-05 04:29 am (UTC)
randyripoff: (Empress)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Actually, Katie should only be about a half-year older. Of course, Katie should also be about 13 by now.

Date: 2018-04-04 09:06 pm (UTC)
lucean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucean
Seriously not cool Gert. Although I guess being a dick is continuous character trait for her.

Also that panel of Nico's expression is both gorgeous and makes me really nervous she's about to ruin this for Karolina.

Date: 2018-04-04 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Gert's just saying what we've all been thinking. I swear if Karolina wasn't powered up, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two of them under most of artists who've drawn them both. At least Anka is making a conscious effort to differentiate them.

Karolina seems to be ruining the relationship just fine all on her own.

Date: 2018-04-05 06:35 am (UTC)
lucean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucean
Them both having blue eyes and blonde hair doesn't make them clones. And here's the thing, even if they resemble each other, it is an insanely dickish thing to state out loud about your friends girlfriend when meeting her for the first time with the friend just next to her.

Date: 2018-04-05 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
In comics as a medium, it kinda does. Especially when so many artists can't draw different faces or body types, so we as readers have to rely on hair color and style to differentiate between characters.

And Gert is clearly whispering, that's why the text is smaller and nobody reacts to what she says. Julie doesn't even blink, she hugs Gert right away.

Date: 2018-04-05 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gndrbendr
Them being lookalikes was the original joke BKV made when they first met. So, it's more a callback to that than Rainbow saying anything new.

That aside, Gert is definitely being rude / suspicious of her - I agree. I actually appreciated that the person with the most obvious "mixed feelings" wasn't Nico / just Nico.

Onto the point about anything being "ruined" - don't we want to see Karolina dating someone that is on the actual Runaways, anyway? Given that Julie joining permanently doesn't make sense with the team already missing two of their own, queer content would be limited by the fact that the series would necessarily focus on the main protagonists. Plus, I think K being with the girl she's loved since the beginning and went to Hell and back with wouldn't exactly be a bad thing for her, either.

Edited Date: 2018-04-05 04:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-04-05 05:37 pm (UTC)
lucean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucean
I guess why the automatic assumption is that the reader would want to see Karolina date someone in the actual Runaways? Especially since does that same apply to everyone else there? Wouldn't a more reasonable approach to be want to see Karo in a well-written and interesting relationship even if that was outside the Runaways.

As for the Karo/Nico thing, I'm really torn on that, especially since Nico did actually turn Karolina down while she seems to have a pretty good relationship with Julie. The reason I'm torn, though, is that I did revisit that old relationship while watching the show and looking back, not really do I not know what Vaughan really wanted that relationship to be, I don't really know what he wanted Karo to be going forward. He seemed to basically focus her whole journey on her sexuality and once that was over, got so infatuated with Xavin that he reduced Karo to be a sidekick there and effectively go against her own larger arc to put Xavin to the forefront. The second season of the Runaways was so bizarre.

Date: 2018-04-05 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gndrbendr
I think for the most part the entire cast has dated within itself? So I do believe it applies to everyone else - the strongest relationship has always been Gert / Chase for instance. I think that in order for a relationship to be well written, a certain amount of page time has to be devoted to it. It is just not realistic for Julie / Karolina to get consistent development with 6 main cast members to already focus on.

I agree with your point about BKVs lack of commitment to Karolina's character as well as to her relationship with Nico. It does seem he was strongly implying Nico regretted turning K down and that she had done so because she was still figuring out her sexuality / caught off guard/ traumatized by the Alex thing (everything from the way she mourned K being gone, to her reaction when she came back, disappointment / anger at Xavin, even a comment from her in a dream sequence that she was kissing boys to "figure out who and what she was interested in"). BUT there was a year's + worth of issues where we just stalled on that and never moved forward or resolved it - it definitely could have had a lot to do with Xavin being an interesting character and BKV not wanting Xavin page time devoted to them being jilted? Not sure. Looking at Paper Girls, it's clear BKV doesn't necessarily intend for initial rejection to mean the character isn't interested - accepting one's queerness takes time for his characters, as it does in life.

& I too was not particularly impressed with BKVs characterization of Karolina at times / as the series went on in particular. I think there is a lot of potential with Karolina that he set up with hinting toward her being self sacrificing and having the most emotional intelligence of the cast, yet at the same time being more sheltered, that a lot of folks on the comic haven't known what to do with as she matured (incl BKV himself). Anka has the strongest grasp on her based on his comments / interviews, so hope that rubs off on Rowell! A lot of creative teams have kinda reduced her to being...blonde. And sparkly. When I think her being queer, vegan, naively spiritual/community oriented, reckless pacifist with an edge undertones have always appealed more to me - though they've hardly been consistently written. I think Anka called her a "festival girl", which made me think of the burning man / traveler / lover type personality...so Imma root for all that to keep developing.
Edited Date: 2018-04-05 10:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-04-05 10:31 am (UTC)
angelophile: (Daffy Duck shotgun)
From: [personal profile] angelophile
Still not over how little of a shit Karolina seems to give about Xavin TBH.

Date: 2018-04-05 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gndrbendr
Well, there was a decent amount of time devoted to that in the 3rd / 4th (I forget which one it eventually ended on...) volume. Essentially the majority of Karolina's lines in a few issues was her mourning Xavin.

That said, given the time / attention that was being paid to that, it did feel OOC for her to get with Julie. Not only because of her just brushing Xavin off, but also because she brushed Nico off too - essentially Molly was the only one who thought they were in danger? Didn't seem cool / likely Karolina would believe Nico would abandon the team for Chase without so much as a convo.

At this point though, there's been a lot of time in both the comic world and definitely in the real world. It would kind of be boring to keep Karolina stuck on Xavin*, though I absolutely wouldn't mind a bit more exploration into her motivations. I've been doing a lot of head canoning with her.

*It was realistic but tiring to have Chase stuck on Gert for so long too, which is why having his attempts to bring her back finally pay off makes a lot of sense haha. Enough Chase! You win! You changed fate...or did you...dundundun
Edited Date: 2018-04-05 09:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-04-05 04:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
I’ll bet dollars to donuts that’s actually Doombot from Avengers A.I.

I also can’t decide whether to be amused or annoyed at the line about the FAA telling Julie she can’t just fly herself cross country. Granted, flying heroes would probably play havoc with aviation on even a local level, but it strikes me as one of those threads you just don’t pull on.

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