NS: Really interesting review of the latest Doomsday Clock issue

[lucean]

So I was a bit torn should I post this as this community doesn't usually discuss reviews, but I thought Oliver Sava's review of Geoff Johns's Doomsday Clock 10 is a really intriguing analysis regardless if one agrees with or not. He basically points out how Johns's position within the company changed drastically over the writing of the maxiseries and how there is an argument to be made that the story of the comic reflects that. Si hopefully this is not against community rules, but I thought to link the review here and recommend people to read it. If this is against the rules, I completely accept that the mods removing this.

The review can be found here.

Comments

[ekrolo2]

You're assuming everyone who tells you what to do has your worst interest at heart, if they even take them into consideration which is pretty cynical. Even for a cynic like myself. Should I have not listened to my teachers who told me not to eat glue and go get my stomach pumped? Should I have not listened to my parents and kept on skipping school just cause I felt like it? Should I go beat someone into a coma even though the law tells me not to do it?

There's plenty of examples I can also name of people giving me the absolute wrong advice or orders too, born out of incompetence or maliciousness. But saying "always do what you think is right" is far too broad of a mentality to have, cause what's right for you, might be a real dick move to someone else and vice versa.

[sadoeuphemist]

I am not assuming anything. In your own scenario, the person who was telling Superman what to do was DARKSEID. Darkseid said, come help me fight Brainiac, and Superman said, I don't trust you. Of course he was right not to trust him! Darkseid was planning to betray him all along! Of course Darkseid had his wost interests at heart! There is no question, the right decision in your scenario is obvious: of course Superman should trust himself over Darkseid!!!

But how do you know who to trust and who not to trust? How do you decide who to follow? It seems you must .... ultimately use your own judgement and do what you think is right???

[ekrolo2]

Superman IS right not to trust him, he's not right about dismissing anyone getting involved at all and potentially letting billions of people get murdered just because he hates the guy ruling over them.

Superman knows who Brainiac is and what he's capable of, the very idea of him going after Apokalips should, at the very least, warrant confirmation. Superman doesn't want even that: he hates Darkseid and doesn't want to get involved at all. Fuck all the innocent people who potentially die as a consequence of that. That's fucked up and a real good example of Superman's thinking being impaired or twisted from spite.

Just cause you don't like or trust the guy in-charge of a place doesn't mean you should let everyone under him die. Which is what Superman was going do to with 0 regrets because he thought that way okay to do. Imagine Batman letting all of Arkham burn down along with all the prisoners, guards and staff inside just because he hates Joker, that's essentially what Superman wanted to do and thought was right.

[sadoeuphemist]

And the solution to that is: you should develop your own critical thinking and be aware of your own biases and take the time not to make rash decisions. The solution is not: you should let other people make the decision for you. That's obviously an incredibly stupid solution.

Like, if Superman had allowed Darkseid to make the decisions for him, the Justice League would have been defeated and Darkseid/Brainiac would have gone on to destroy countless other inhabited worlds, so that's still obviously a worse outcome than your hypothetical.