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icon_uk ([personal profile] icon_uk) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2020-01-07 10:56 am

Mod Post: Off Topic Tuesday

In the comments to these weekly posts (and only these posts), it's your chance to go as off topic as you like. Talk about non-comics stuff, thread derail, and just generally chat among yourselves.

Well, the news in 2020 started off more or less as follows

1st - Pretty images of firework displaysa round the world
2nd - A reminder that Australia is still basically on fire
3rd - Assassination of military leader in Iran may lead to reewed military action.

Happy *&%ing New Year!

That last is of particular importance of course. No one would deny that Qasem Soleimani was a massively dangerous man who was instrumental in numerous atrocities, but his position as miltary leader in a hardline totalitarian regime which is at political odds with America has to be factored in. Previous Presidents have been in a position to order him killed, but did not, because of the resulting fallout potentially being even more dangerous.

Given Trumps's many tweets about how he forsaw Obama using military strikes on Iran to help ensure winning an election (Which Obama never actually did), it is hard to not view this action as a work of breathtaking cynicism. And his later claim that his social media accounts now count as notification to Congress about his actions is causing some concern to say the least, so no change there.

The Golden Globe winners were announced, with host Ricky Gervais pissing a lot of people off as per usual. His pleading that celebs shouldn't make political statements in their speeches was ignored of course, and whilst he might have had a point in some cases, the irony that a minor celeb was making just as much of a political statement by asking other celebs to not make political statements at all, was notable. (And to be honest, if I had to choose between Gervais' usual waffle, or Rose McGowan encouraging women to vote, it's not even a contest.)

Oh and Bong Joon Ho, Director of the GG for Best Foreign Language Film "Parasite", gave a speech where encouraged people to accept that subtitles are a thing and use them. “Once you overcome the one-inch tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films".

The trial of Harvey Weinstein has started.

Major technology show CES 2020 us taking place in Las Vegas at the moment, with it's usual assortment of "That seems like a good idea!" to "Who thought that was EVER a good idea?" tech.

And to end on a definite up-note. Series 12 of Doctor Who launched with an impressive New Years Day Special (as part 1 of a 2 parter which finished, perhaps even more impressively, on Sunday).

It immediately set itself up as being a much higher stakes, much less "safe", series (a common comment on Season 11 was that it was beautifully made, but it did tend to play it safe in terms of storytelling risks, which isn't to sell episodes like "Rosa" short).

We got to see the Doctor dealing with an alien invasion, strange humans (Lenny Henry in very creepy form), spycraft no many levels, and an unexpected old threat, as well as a couple of entirely new issues which will doubtless be underpinning this series. Oh, and giving Jodie Whittaker a chance to show more of her acting range, as well as raise sighs amongst a significant %age of the WlW community with her formalwear choices.

Just in case people haven't seen the episodes yet (it being the holiday period), I won't post any spoilers (Though I really, REALLY want to), but they may crop up in the comments below, so be careful.
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[personal profile] dewinged 2020-01-07 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Gervais is trash. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, but he's still trash.

I remember when Seth Macfarlane hosted the Emmys, and everyone was all 'OMG so crude and inappropriate' but when it's Gervais doing the same they break out the kneepads and mouthwash.

I've been watching My Hero Academia, speaking of double-standard myopic fandom bullshit. (though I'm a bit behind because Simuldub has apparently become 'oh, next week' instead.)

Let me give an example:

Mineta: *does/says something wildly inappropriate about women*
Fandom: Oh, he's the absolute worst! No quarter! Remove him!
Me: Yeah I get that; the character's behavior is wrong, and should be addressed and there should be consequences.

Bakugou: *first scene is him telling a small child to kill himself*
Me: Oh, this is going to be-
Fandom: OMG my angery explody boi son! Let me hug you!
Me: *gets really nauseous*

That shit has got to stop.
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[personal profile] trooper924 2020-01-07 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Mind you, it's worth noting that the manga's author himself admitted that he went too far with Bakugou's behavior and deliberately scaled him back going forward. Bakugou never acts that way again for the rest of series.
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[personal profile] dewinged 2020-01-07 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That, I was unaware of. And Bakogou doesn't, but I want to see the apology and remorse on Bakugou's part. Especially since non-quirk Midoriya, in the context of the MHA universe, could be considered disabled (heavy YMMV/interpretation, there.)

Though the end of the first episode seals Bakugou's fate, I need to see him own up to what he did.
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[personal profile] trooper924 2020-01-07 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, fair enough.

Though I do want to point that the reason why fans hate Mineta more than Bakugo--despite the latter doing something arguably worse than the former ever did--is that Bakugo suicide-baited Midoriya once at the very start of the story, back when the author was still figuring out how things worked, and never stooped to that low ever again. Mineta has acted like a creepy pervert since his first appearance, has never been seriously called for it, and the story always treats it like it's a harmless, fun joke
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[personal profile] onsokumaru 2020-01-07 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
He is not as bad as in chapter 1, but he keeps being a huge jerk to everybody and to Deku especially. Insulting people all the time, even threatening them. And all he gets is an occasional eye roll, when he is not praised by a certain redhead who mistakes toxic masculinity for manliness.
But maybe its just me getting too uptight as I get old. I used to be ok with that kind of "former" bad guy character, but I'm now annoyed at how they act like they are making a favor to people just by sticking around or by acting like a decent human being every 31th of the month.
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[personal profile] trooper924 2020-01-07 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Though, "belligerent, antisocial jerkass who's rude to everyone" is still a major stepdown from "budding psychopath who tells people he doesn't like to kill themselves".
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[personal profile] zachbeacon 2020-01-07 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't just the fandom. The characters are like that. Mineta tries to peep on the girls and they're all "wtf, dude?" but Bakugou behaves live a rapid animal in the spots festival and everyone is so impressed by how strong he is.



Always found Gervais insufferable but they keep giving him a platform.

Seth Macfarlane at the Emmys was exactly what I'd expect from him (a huge, elaborate musical production about breasts) and I don't know why anyone was surprised. Still, he get points for being one of the few calling out Weinstein and Spacey BEFORE the rest of Hollywood broke their silence.

In short, I don't really get how someone can hire a comedian for an awards show or White House Correspondents' Association or whatever and not be familiar with their work. I don't blame Michelle Wolf for offending people in 2018, I blame the event organizer for hiring an insult comic and putting her in a room full of easy targets.

[personal profile] long_silence 2020-01-07 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's not just the other classmates constantly praising Bakugou, it's practically all of the teachers, pro heroes, and random civilians. No one cares that he's constantly swearing and threatening to cause people bodily harm or to kill them

Honestly if Horikoshi had any guts, Bakugou should be exhibit "A" for the League of Villains about what's wrong with Hero Society.
This "Might makes right" mentality that All Might created, is what has allowed Bakugou to grow up like this without any criticism or any adult figure telling him "No", he's a complete monster and everyone just looks the other way because he's strong.
Of course he was never going to agree to become a villain, as a hero everyone practically worships the ground he walks on.
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[personal profile] zachbeacon 2020-01-08 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think the series is overly preoccupied with pretending that our hero (Deku) and his rival (Bakugo) are somehow two sides of the same coin because they both idolize All Might. That completely misses that …

a) EVERYONE (including a lot of the villains) worships All Might.
b) Bakugo learned the WRONG lessons from All Might (specifically that might means right)
c) A LOT of people learned the wrong lessons from All Might and that’s part of the reason the “era of peace” All Might created is an unstable house of cards.

Deku and Bakugo aren’t remotely similar. They’re both smart and powerful and that’s about it. This isn’t even a Natuto/Sasuke situation because – while Sasuke obviously didn’t deserve a friend like Naruto – at least Sasuke has a reason for being the way he is*. Bakugo is just an asshole.

*I guess Todoroki is kinda a more well-adjusted Sasuke but I actually LIKE him.

I keep waiting for Bakugo to at least learn some humility but it didn’t happen after he was kidnapped. Or after the worked under Best Jeanist (who seems to be one of the more genuinely heroic heroes). Or after he was kidnapped AGAIN. Or after her failed the License Exam.

The closest we see to genuine self-reflection was when he briefly blames himself for All Might’s power loss but he almost immediately redirects that rage to Deku.

If Bakugo is the future of heroism then that just adds fuel to the “Stain was right” argument.

PS: Speaking of comparing Bakugo to characters from other anime, have you seen this Team Four Star bit?

https://youtu.be/aTlMYmiQOz8
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[personal profile] viridian5 2020-01-08 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly if Horikoshi had any guts, Bakugou should be exhibit "A" for the League of Villains about what's wrong with Hero Society.

I've only seen that happen in some fanfic.

In middle school, the teachers were outright enabling Bakugou.
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[personal profile] zachbeacon 2020-01-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking of teachers, I will give Eraser Head a pass because he at least tries to discipline Bakugou ... though a lot of his shenanigans involve Deku and All Might plays favorites (for obvious reasons) and tends to protect the kids from any consequences when Deku is involved.

All Might really isn't a very good teacher. Deku probably learned more about managing his powers from Gran Torino (who is NOT UA staff) than he did from All Might.

Come to think about it, we keep being TOLD UA is the top hero school but I'm not sure I believe that. The place is run by what I assume is some sort of sentient rodent, the guidance counselor is a feral dog-man, and I can't help but think that Midnight shouldn't been around teen boys (though for all i know this is an Emma Frost situation where she's the only one who is actually qualified to teach),