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starwolf_oakley ([personal profile] starwolf_oakley) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2010-09-27 11:53 pm

Memorial Case Smashing: Bruce Wayne, Murderer?

To the earlier request by Benicio127, here are some pages to BATMAN #600, written by Ed Brubaker and drawn by Scott McDaniel. It ended the BRUCE WAYNE: MURDERER? storyline and started the BRUCE WAYNE: FUGITIVE storyline. It also (maybe) marks the first time Batman says "There is no Bruce Wayne" out loud.



We've seen the set-up elsewhere. http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2058266.html

It should be noted that Alfred isn't there because he quit during OFFICER DOWN.
"You are not a child and it is time you ceased acting like one. Which means it is time I stop abetting you." Alfred came back to Wayne Manor during BRUCE WAYNE: FUGITIVE. He knew Bruce wasn't guilty for one reason: "I knew his father."







There's a pretty involved Batman vs. Nightwing fight, which does show that a LOT of the Batcave is built up. Which is kind of a given, with all the cars, plane, boats, rockets, etc. kept in there.





As everyone "stares bug-eyed," (according to Shortpacked) Batman makes his escape.



A narrative box says: "They could never understand. Bruce Wayne was surrounded by pain, but he couldn't react to it."

BRUCE WAYNE: MURDERER would make a good animated movie adaptation, dropping some (but not all) of the more questionable Batdickery aspects. Batman deciding "I don't want to be Bruce Wayne anymore" makes for an interesting story point. An animated movie could really explore the "There is no Bruce Wayne" idea and show why it is true or not true.
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[personal profile] silverzeo 2010-09-28 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
This kinda reminds me of an episode of Boondocks that gave light to Uncle Rucus's backstory and to what he is.... namely the part where he is repeatly beaten by his "Dad" and has his mother holding him and cry dramatically.
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[personal profile] jarodrussell 2010-09-28 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Holy crap, I think Batman was hiding an Omnitrix in that case.
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[personal profile] yaseen101 2010-09-28 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather not see another Batman in either animated or live action form for the next few years, thanks.

I think the problem is that from what I've seen, BW:M/F seem to simplify the Batman-Bruce Wayne dynamic. While I subscribe to the Dini/Timm intepretation that the 'real' is the Detective sitting in the Bat-cave snarking with Alfred, I also love the idea that Batman-Bruce Wayne exist as their own yin-yang thing going on.

Batman solves crime by being a Detective, rinign in criminals, corrupt officals, mob bosses, superh villains and terrorists.

Bruce Wayne is a Philanthropist whom after Batman puts their bosses behind bars provides employment, food and shelter to those who were forced to work for them. Also helping out charitable causes.
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[personal profile] aelflar 2010-09-28 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I for one would love to see more of the widely unknown Batbooks and stories to be made into movies. I mean, most folks on other boards have just heard of mainstream Tim Drake and still think he`s Robin! Give the audience something new and allow for the characters to grow and mature and with them, the industry!

And the same goes for the rest of the DCU and his characters. Maaybe I`m crazy, but I`d like a Booster Gold animated movie, inspired from his current tales. Or a proper Teen Titans movie (with Discowing, ideally, but that`s just me). More of the Lantern Corps to be introduced, not just the Green ones. Jaime Reyes as Blue Beetle...I could go on for hours!

[identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com 2010-09-28 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Grr...wouldn't Cass know from reading Bruce's body langauge that he hadn't killed anyone?
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[personal profile] benicio127 2010-09-28 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, thank you for posting this!

OH man, that scene where Dick smashes through the memorial case and Babs, Tim and Cass are all staring, jaws wide open -- kind of makes me laugh a little.

And that first page - Cass's face looks smooshed or deformed. Scott McDaniel seemed to be such a prolific artist in the 90s, but not really a fan of the art...
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[personal profile] destroyed 2010-09-28 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This isn't as hilarious as shortpacked makes it out to be.

On the subject of Jason's memorial case - I'm going to whore out an animation of his level 3 hyper in our mugen project "Gotham Knights" because I'm excited to share our work with fans:



It's called "Like rehearsed..." and the idea is that no matter the opponent you get the flash images of Robin!Jason having been taught those moves sparring with Bruce, the actual opponent (in this case our Batman) being hit by RedHood!Jason throughout.

(Note: I use a different name in mugen circles but JToddz is very much one of my and my team's WIPs so I'm not posting the work of others, here.) Thoughts?
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[personal profile] jaybee3 2010-09-28 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The art is painful. Everyone's faces, particularly Cassandra's, looks like they're melting. The story was painful too. It had a good build-up but in the end basically became "The Tragic Love of Bruce Wayne and Sasha Bourdeux (aka Greg Rucka's pet character)". There was never any fallout of the Gotham P.D. failing to catch the real killer (Cain turned himself in) or arresting the most prominent citizen in Gotham on false charges within hours without doing any more detective work (i.e. no one checked whether Bruce's heir, Dick, a cop with the skills to do a frame-up job even had an alibi). Even when Renee Montoya (one of the arresting cops) or Commissioner Atkins started to have doubt about Wayne's guilt they did nothing, content to let him rot in prison (where apparently the warden/guards would let skinheads after the richest man in Gotham - with once again no follow-up when Bruce was cleared). And then of course, Sasha, who had been arrested as an accessory to Bruce's crime, CONTINUED to be in prison when Bruce was out and then she was "killed" in prison (a woman proven innocent) and still there was no hell to pay. It was like the whole Superman New Krypton mess. The re-set button was pressed. Renee and Crispus Allen (the arresting officers who screwed up) were just yelled out by Bruce's lawyer. Maggie Sawyer, who OKed Allen's harassment of Alfred when Bruce escaped, got even less than that. Atkins and the D.A. at the time apparently kept their jobs. And the murder of Vesper Fairchild and the idea that Gotham's favorite son (and #1 employer) was actually jailed for it - never really brought up again in the last decade or so.
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[personal profile] inexpediency 2010-09-28 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the way this video sums it up.