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starwolf_oakley ([personal profile] starwolf_oakley) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-01-20 11:42 pm

ILLUMINATI: Personal responsibility

Oracle once wondered if the Bat-family was culpable for the Joker's crimes since they never did anything permanent to stop him. Here's a few pages from the NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI special where a similar discussion about culpability is discussed.





First, a page where the Black Panther shows how smart he is.



T'Challa's smart, but... The problem with the general public of the Marvel Universe is that they are idiots. Some of the smarter idiots are worried superheroes might subjugate those they protect. This isn't Tony's intention here. He just wants to subjugate other superheroes. Which he eventually does. Idiot.

The full two-page spread of Hill and Stark's conversation.



Spider-Man has a simple reason for not killing Osborn: Neither Aunt May nor Uncle Ben would like it. And Spider-Man is now the *only* Marvel Superhero who thinks killing people is wrong.
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[personal profile] vitruvian23 2011-01-21 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It's all BS. If Spider-Man succeeds in capturing Osborn and turning him over to the authorities, it's their fault if they fail to convict him or keep him incarcerated, not his. After all, it's not as though executing criminals on his own say-so would endear him to the public or result in him being tarred as a threat and/or menace any less often, would it? No, it would just confirm every fear the average Joe has about superhumans operating by their own set of rules and possibly taking things over from regular humans, and make him a fugitive who's wanted for actually breaking the law in a major way.

Even if you want to argue that the regular authorities are ill-equipped in cases like this, there are organizations in the MU set up just to deal with things like this that do have real authority under the law. The real question, therefore, is at what point does it become SHIELD's fault, or that of whatever organization takes its place.