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badficwriter ([personal profile] badficwriter) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-02-02 11:34 pm

Avengers 8 and 9

What happened after the Red Hulk crashed into Avengers Tower?

Avengers 8 (4 pages)
The Red Hulk relates how he's been living in Death Valley in secret, doing ops for Steve Rogers. (I found it unbelievable that some of the Avengers didn't know him. The guy appeared on live television announcing his takeover of the Unites States, for heaven's sake.) He describes how he was attacked by the guy with the red and yellow jewels.



That's a coloring mistake. Steve Rogers is standing next to Maria Hill.

Tony puts out the Illuminati signal. Everyone but Black Bolt shows up, and everyone is angry. They weren't supposed to meet anymore after the Hulk thing.



There is some exposition about the Infinity Gems and their thefts. Lockjaw teleports them to Inhumans old home in the Himalayas. They follow the trail of bodies into the underground. Medusa recognizes the broken shell the gem was kept in as the work of a dead Inhuman. They realize they have company up top.



Avengers 9 (4 pages)

The scenes with the Avengers are interspersed with the scenes of the Hood. He was moved to non-powered prison, got bodyguard protection, made friends with the only nonhuman he could find..who is an Inhuman who makes shells...and bribing a guard to get out of prison. (In the most recent Avengers Initiative, it's revealed that Hood was replaced by a lookalike.)







The 'preview', for some reason, shows the private conversation that came after these pages here.

The Red Hulk suggests splitting into teams to go after all the gems at once, and use their power against the mystery man. Because the gems are drawn together, the situation is already past the 'necessary sacrifice' stage.

Steve says after it's over, Tony is out. No more excuses. Thor encourages Tony to prove Steve wrong.

Meanwhile, the Hood visits Madame Masque, whose lawyer kept her out of prison. He heals her face.

Someone tell me what "And you decided to be Captain America!" means. I just don't get what Tony is trying to say.
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[personal profile] wizardru 2011-02-04 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
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The thing that most annoys me about this isn't the fact that they keep playing these scenes out OVER AND OVER (why even HAVE Avengers Prime if you're just going to do THIS SHIT?). No, what annoys me is how first Millar (who hates heroes in general, afaik) and then Bendis proceed on this line-wide assassination of characters in the MU.

And I just don't know WHY. I can understand not liking a character...but this just reads like CRAP. And these continual massive retcons are just really tiring.

I liked when Professor X was just a dude with a mission. Maybe he was impersonal. Maybe he wasn't always nice. But he was a Stern Father...not a zealot who spent the lives of his surrogate children, every bit as much a monster as Magneto. Remember? He used to the ANSWER to Magneto. But not now.

Remember when Iron Man was just a dude trying to make up for a life of debauchery and improve the world? When he was just a dude who was a bit of a player who'd beaten a drinking problem? Who folks turned to for help all the time?

A whole generation has come into comics without ever knowing that every member of the Illuminati hasn't always been a bunch of raving assholes. For that matter, how is it that the smartest guys in the room picked a name like that? I mean, am I supposed to think that these incredibly smart, classically educated men have no idea what the connotations of that title hold? And don't tell me ''Oh, it was a bit of wit" or some such nonsense, given their described mission.

Never mind the fact that IF they actually were intending to do all this pro-active stuff (rather than just an excuse for shooting the Hulk into space)...where the fuck where they for the dozens of crises that supposedly NOW happened while they were together?

Also: A FUNCTIONAL ALCOHOLIC AND CHRONIC LADIES MAN WHO SPENT YEARS PRETENDING HE WASN'T A SUPERHERO BUT WHO DID COVER UP HIS HABIT SUCCESSFULLY IS NOT THIS BAD OF A LIAR. Seriously, WTF? "Let Me...Go check my files...."? Is that the best you can manage, Bendis?


ARRGHH!

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[LATE RANT]

[identity profile] quroiui.livejournal.com 2011-04-17 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I just wanted to say thank you for posting this. I'm fairly new to comics, and I've been out for a few years, but I picked up Iron Man again recently an I had NO IDEA who I was reading! I couldn't put my finger on what bugged me, so thank you for articulating it.

Has Bendis actually READ about the formation of the Illuminati? Tony Stark calls together a bunch of really smart guys who represent as many groups of Metas as they can, and lays down some fucking facts.

They knew the Kree and Skrulls had set up shop on Earth. They knew that the only reason Earth hadn't fallen was luck. There's no army prepared to take on these threats, when this happens again, the superpowered people will be the ones to face them.

Then he proposes that ALL of the superpeople organize themselves to prevent this from happening. He identified a serious problem, he proposed a solution. He never suggested secrecy, and his solution was shot down. When the idea of a sort of secret information society comes up, STRANGE proposes it, backed by Reed, and then Namor makes it a requirement for his participation.

This is the point where it spirals into stupidity, but MY point is that it ISN'T JUST TONY'S FAULT. It's not even MOSTLY Tony's fault, but tell that to the Marvel writers. That entire argument is just stupid. From both characters. There's a legitimate conflict to be worked out there, and instead they substituted that garbage.

Civil War turned me off comics, and now that it's really, really over Marvel CONTINUES with this asshatery. I don't know what they thought was wrong with the characters before, I really don't. I was pretty fond of some of them.