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icon_uk ([personal profile] icon_uk) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2012-01-16 08:41 pm

Marvel clarifies their Mutant Classification system...

For years Marvel Mutants have been bandying classifications around, but it's a little confusing as to which end was the upper limit, was it Alpha, or Omega....

Newsarama has a handy field guide up...

ALPHA LEVEL

An Alpha level mutant is someone who looks no different from any other human being, and whose powers are pretty effective in combat. Likewise, they have no limitation placed on them as a result of their X-gene.

Examples - Colossus, Dazzler, Kitty Pryde

BETA LEVEL

Beta level mutants are just like Alphas, but with a catch. While at first glance they can pass for a human being, careful scrutiny reveals they have some strange trait that sets them apart, like an eye color that doesn't generally appear in humans. A Beta mutant can also be someone who passes for human but has some limitation imposed on them because of their power, such as not being able to make skin-to-skin contact (which describes Rogue's condition for many years).

Examples - Cyclops (eyes), Gambit (eyes), Wolverine (via his bone claws), Northstar/Aurora (pointy ears), pre-furry Beast (disproportionately large hands and feet) perhaps, Annalee of the Morlocks (looked human, but couldn't switch her broadcast empathic powers off)

GAMMA LEVEL

Like Alphas and Betas, Gamma level mutants are pretty handy in combat situations. But as a result of their X-gene, they cannot pass for human without the use of a disguise of some sort.

Examples - Nightcrawler, Blink, post-furry Beast.

DELTA LEVEL

Delta Level mutants are those who, like Alphas and Betas, can pass for human at first glance. But unlike Alphas or Betas, their power is not something that is obvious and automatically combative. Their abilities are more subtle, enough so that an outside observer can't actually see the power in use. Delta mutants may go for years not realizing that they are, in fact, mutants, due to the nature of their abilities.

Examples - Domino, Forge, Cypher

EPSILON LEVEL

Epsilon level mutants either have a non-combative power or no real powers at all, but are like Gamma level mutants in that they cannot hide what they are. Many examples of such mutants can be found among the Morlocks, a community that chose to live in the sewers rather than among humanity.

Examples - Artie Maddicks, Tar Baby

OMEGA LEVEL


These are the people who truly make normal human beings and government agencies afraid. These are mutants whose power levels are such that they are considered the most serious threats, capable of wide-scale destruction and proving very difficult to take down, contain or kill.

Examples - Magneto, Iceman (now)

So your thoughts? Where does your own favourite fit in? Would YOU put them there?

Reminds me a bit of the informal classifications used in the Wild Card books; The mutagenic, alien-originated Wild Card virus has differing effects on those wo caught it, and the names used were appropriate to the card motif.. 990/1000 died horribly (Drawing the Black Queen),  9/1000 survived by only gained deformities (Drawing the Joker) and 1/1000 ganied superpowers of some sort (Drawing the Ace... though many powers weren't actually that useful, and such people rather bitterly referred to themselves as having "drawn the Deuce")

For legality, Doug proves that just because you're a Delta level mutant, it doesn't mean you can't cause some SERIOUS damage in the right circumstances... As the future Sentinel MCP is about to find out.


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[personal profile] salinea 2012-01-16 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
wow, that's a classification ripe for political deconstruction.

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[personal profile] spacebetween 2012-01-16 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
They took their sweet time coming up with the outline for the classifications.

Though, when has Magneto been classed as an Omega level mutant?
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[personal profile] vspope 2012-01-16 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
What else could he possibly be?

The United Nations had protocols in place at one point SPECIFICALLY targeting Magneto and his powerset. He had his own asteroid base. He had his own COUNTRY. He once destroyed an entire city from thousands of miles away (machine-assisted, but a machine of his own design). He may be walking evidence for a unified field theory. He takes on whole teams of capable combat-trained superhumans at once and wins. If someone says he's not Omega-level, I'm sure a lot of governments and bruised heroes would argue the point strenuously.

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-01-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure Mags has been one of the poster children for 'Omega' ever since they started that classification system.

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[personal profile] kd_the_movie 2012-01-16 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think its a little too based around appearance of all things.

I always figured a mutant classification scale would relate to how much they're able to affect the world/reality/universe them.

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[personal profile] spacebetween 2012-01-16 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Give it time and I'm sure they will add to it with .1 .2 .3 etc. That actually deals with power. Well it does touch on power with Omega being the only real stand out. It's mostly about appearance which is is disappointing
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[personal profile] nyadnar17 2012-01-17 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually really like that the classification includes appearance. One of the main purposes of the X-men is to help mutants integrate into society. People like Kitty Pride are going to have different needs than people like Rouge and Scott Summers and they are going to have different issues than Four-Face. The classification system reflects that.
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[personal profile] brooms 2012-01-16 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
These are the people who truly make normal human beings and government agencies afraid. These are mutants whose power levels are such that they are considered the most serious threats, capable of wide-scale destruction and proving very difficult to take down, contain or kill.

i could use more clarification on the omega level concept, tbh.

this and killcrops.

[personal profile] spacebetween 2012-01-16 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Omega Level hasn't been clearly defined. For the most part it has been stated that to possessing powers without foreseeable limits. Less then a dozen of mutants fit this category.

Vulcan and Franklin Richards have both be defined as beyond Omega Levels.
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[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-01-16 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
...There's a mutant named "Tar Baby"? Fucking seriously?

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[personal profile] hybrid2 2012-01-16 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Mistake I see in this list.

Alpha.Colosus? He's made of metal!Passing for "normal" go out the window.

Delta,Domino.I dont think she use makeup to look like a dalmatian.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-01-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Actually a fairly well-defined system (although the differences between them are a bit subjective at the edges, that's to be expected), but, at first thought there should be 2 separate classification systems - one system classifying powers, one phenotypical variation from baseline.

On further thought, the 'how human' system has issues with potential discrimination...on the other hand, it does create an obvious metric for anti-discrimination laws to work with (once mutants are taken as a protected class).

As to powers, a single-axis system will always have problems. There should be at least 3 axes, IMO - power type, power level, power control. So, Cyke would be, say, 'Energy/Force, Level 5, Low Control', or Jean 'Psionic, Level 10, Perfect Control'. This also stops the issue of classifying them in a way that treats them as weapons.
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[personal profile] rdfox 2012-01-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
So would Squirrel Girl be Gamma, or Omega? ;)
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[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-01-17 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on what week and what book it is :P
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[personal profile] weber_dubois22 2012-01-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have to agree that the statuses are indeed modeled on appearances; I always thought the "Alpha to Omega" thing relied on strength and abilities alone, not so much what the mutation does to the body in regards to physical appearance, thus the levels were interchangeable depending on how strong a mutant became overtime (like Digimon evolution, basically). Cyclops' as he is now honestly give me the impression that he's stronger than a Alpha/Beta level Mutant (which probably would've suited during the very beginning of his tenure as an X-Man) and I always thought Storm, though this may be for serious bias, was Omega like Jean and apparently Magneto.
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[personal profile] weber_dubois22 2012-01-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm also curious about characters like Peter Parker, the Fantastic Four and Miles Morales. People who end up with abilities via accidental means. Are they classified as mutants (or something else entirely) and if so, where would they fall on this list? PSS: Does DC Comics have a ranking system for Metahumans or are they IDGAF on that matter entirely?

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[personal profile] hyperactivator 2012-01-17 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
The more I learn about mutants the less I am impressed with them. I feel mad scientists and magic users are just plain better suited evolutionarly in every way. Usually without being anything more than human.

Anything mutants can do they can duplicate through study and experimentaion and many of the most effective mutants also utilise these arts.

Mutants are just so specialised and and anyone will tell you thats bad for survival.

Thats why my headcannon is that Mutants are the humankind's reaction to extinction level threats.
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[personal profile] eyz 2012-01-17 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Blame that on Sinister :P
2 times outta 3, he's responsible for creating these "anomalies", mutant legacy familes, etc.. XD

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[personal profile] mistervader 2012-01-17 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
In light of this article: http://io9.com/5872016/marvel-lawyers-fighting-to-prove-that-mutants-arent-human

I'm a bit squicked with their classification of mutants, really. It's a bit self-defeating to have an in-world cause of mutant rights, but then turn around and try to classify them as non-humans for tax purposes in real life.
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[personal profile] fifthie 2012-01-17 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Those are some pretty shitty useless power levels even compared with the baseline intrinsic shitty uselessness of fictional characters' power levels.
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[personal profile] lieut_kettch 2012-01-17 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
So it's not a power-tier system after all? Then why use the term "level" at all? Why not "type" or something similar?
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[personal profile] ar_feiniel 2012-01-17 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
ikr?
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[personal profile] crabby_lioness 2012-01-17 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
I wanna know if 616 National Geographic will include this classification system in their latest edition of the Superhero/Supervillain Field Guide.
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[personal profile] eyz 2012-01-17 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
I actually kinda like that classificiation!
Though is it refered in-universe? I mean do Shield guys or politicians use those terms in the comics themselves? If that's so..well that's pretty racist for muties :/
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[personal profile] dr_archeville 2012-01-17 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I know Omega-level's been used in-universe many times before, and I tinhk Alpha and Beta have, too.
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[personal profile] dr_archeville 2012-01-17 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Kinda funny that Gamma -- a word most associated with the Hulk and many of his foes -- is used for "useful [combat] powers, but cannot pass for human."
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[personal profile] arbre_rieur 2012-01-18 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, is this even official? It's written by a Newsarama contributor, and nowhere does the article say the information was provided by Marvel.
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[personal profile] cygna_hime 2012-01-20 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently all the letters between Epsilon and Omega do not exist. I am very distressed about this, and I'm sure Omicron is too. Poor letter has inadequacy issues as it is!