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dahlia_moon ([personal profile] dahlia_moon) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2012-02-28 09:56 pm

Runaways issue #1

per [personal profile] weber_dubois22's request, who wanted to see Alex Wilder's introduction. These are the first six pages of issue #1.



















(Egads, how very much I want this comic to be continued. Or a movie would be nice. But that'd be asking for too much.)
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Re: Alex Wilder!

[personal profile] mrstatham 2012-02-29 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Vaughan's two volumes (given he did 1-18 and then 1-24) are the best stuff Marvel's produced in a long time, really. It's just a shame that Marvel couldn't understand the formula for the life of them and saddled them with Whedon (who made it into a basic teen-team book with a bullshit helping of drama) and then Moore, who.. Well. It just wasn't the same. The only writer I was really into was the guy who wrote the Molly and the X-Men one-parter, and Immonen. If Immonen had been given more time to get running with her plot, I think it would've been good. Obviously a different flavour to Vaughan, but interesting.

But.. Yeah. Nico's one of my favourite character is all of comics, but the entire gang in general was good; I never quite got behind the 'arranged marriage' stuff with K and Xavin - that mysteriously worked out? But I thought the stuff Vaughan did - the whole way he wrote them, the circle of backstabbing and the promised threats if they turned on each other ('rip his heart out', I think, must be the most repeated line in Volume 2), felt very authentic in terms of them being teens, and very authentic in terms of them unknowingly following in their parents' footsteps.
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Re: Alex Wilder!

[personal profile] drmcninja 2012-02-29 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It speaks to the magnitude of his work here when people compare him to Whedon and Joss comes up lacking.
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Re: Alex Wilder!

[personal profile] mrstatham 2012-02-29 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not that Whedon's a bad writer as such, but I don't think he was suited for Runaways. I don't think the Ascended Fanboy aspect of his appointment as writer helped either, but to me, he just.. Changed up the formula a little too quickly and a little too severely. I know that a big ol' shake-up's what a series needs sometimes, but we went from a relatively grounded team of kids with powers dealing with usually low-level threats in LA to having them flung into New York, dealing with the Kingpin, and having some ridiculous high-concept time travel adventures where Whedon deliberately fucked with the dynamic of the team and tortured one of the characters for a purpose he was never going to explain himself.
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Re: Alex Wilder!

[personal profile] auggie18 2012-02-29 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Generally speaking, I love me some Whedon, but his run on Runaways was sorta lack luster. He sorta missed the point. Though not as badly as the "YOU ARE THE NEXT GENERATION OF SUPERHEROES MOLLY AND OLD TIMEY GIRL."


It says something that my favorite thing about Joss Whedon's run was his making Chase into pot. Because that sorta worked.
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Re: Alex Wilder!

[personal profile] nefrekeptah 2012-03-01 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed about Moore and Immonen, but not Whedon. Weadon's run wasn't as good as Vaghun's run was, but he still got the characters much better then most other writers that tried to tackle the kids, he developed them, and introduced a new one with a great deal of potential. The main problem I had with his run is it tried to do too much at one time, and therefore a lot of the character development was either badly rushed (Victor falling for another girl would have been a fine story line, if only it had room to breath) or happened off screen (I would have liked to see Chase go to the past to see Gert, you know?).

No, as far as I'm concerned, it was Moore that made them into a generic Teen superhero book - except he forgot the drama part and it became a bland generic Teen superhero book.

The Molly one shot, by the way, was written by Chris Yost, who also did the Secret Invasion special guest-starring two of the Young Avengers. And yes, I thought he would have been great on the books as well.