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starwolf_oakley ([personal profile] starwolf_oakley) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2012-06-23 04:22 pm

NEW AVENGERS #27: Hope's new mentor is... who?

3 pages and some panels from NEW AVENGERS #27
Hope is in K'un Lun learning about the first time the Phoenix Force came to earth from Iron Fist. Master Yu-Ti and Hope meditate next to a scrying pool.
They find out the Obi-Wan of AVENGERS VS. X-MEN will be...



hopespider1

Say what now?

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Given the whole "Hope psychically controlled the Five Lights to follow her because she didn't want Cable to be wrong," I don't like Hope that much.

hopespider4

It is now 616-universe canon that Uncle Ben said this. But they really need a reason he said this. Ben didn't know Peter wold ever get superpowers, and he probably wasn't talking about being a masked vigilante.

Maybe Ben thought Peter would grow up to become a scientist, and Ben didn't want Peter to become a weapon designer. Because in the Marvel Universe, weapon designers are the scum of the earth. Everyone hates Tony Stark for the years he spent building weapons, including Tony Stark. Bruce Banner thinks the Hulk is his punishment for making the gamma bomb. Billions were spent on Sentinels.

Yes, it is a little weird given most Silver Age origins revolved around Cold War militarism, but there you go. Weapon designers are horrible, horrible people according to Marvel Comics.

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Question: Are the Phoenix Five acting irresponsibly with their power? They are trying to fix the things that cause people to suffer. At least so far. Cyclops saying "No more Avengers" indicates less responsibility and more pettiness.

Funny coincidence: Hope brainwashed the Five Lights because she didn't want Cable to be wrong. Spider-Man fights crime because he doesn't want Uncle Ben to be wrong.

Random comment: Mike Deodato also did "Sins Past," a Spider-Man story Marvel attempts to justify by saying the story was about how Gwen Stacy was wrong about something and made a mistake (having sex with Norman Osborn while she was still dating Peter). I wonder how Peter Parker would react if he found out Uncle Ben was wrong about something? (It's different than if Aunt May was wrong about something, because Aunt May is wrong about everything. Mary Jane will make a good wife for Peter? Epic fail.)
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[personal profile] shadwing 2012-06-24 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes I actually LIKE this explaination, because you know that the P5 are going to claim "The Phoenix made us do it!" while Hope can say "Uh no...she didn't because I AM it's soul, you just had the power...nothing else."

And yeah...exception of OMD standing...Spidey can still be held as the most human, moral compass the Marvel U Supers have got. He's the guy that usually gets the "Hey...wait...this is wrong, we can't do this." line (See Civil War to Tony)

And frankly that is what Hope needs, she gotta learn to connect with Human and Mutant kind if she's going to be the Phoenix, and realise that ALL actions have concequences and she's responsible for every single one. While Scott and Co can teach Hope how to handle power...they cant teach her how to connect with Humanity since they themselves have distanced themselves from Humanity. LOgan is trying again with the School...but still has a long way to go
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[personal profile] big_daddy_d 2012-06-26 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
they cant teach her how to connect with Humanity since they themselves have distanced themselves from Humanity.

You know of all things, I'm surprised I didn't take notice of this.