Amazing Spider-Man #14

[cyberghostface]

(Basically the red crystal holds the essence of Morlun's father)



Spider-Man brings him to "Uncle Ben"'s dimension which is filled with radiation which is toxic to Morlun and co. Morlun says that this will kill him, and Spider-Man tells him to go to the bomb shelter. It will keep him alive, but barely.

Comments

[nyadnar17]

I did NOT see the death of the master weaving coming. Kinda makes you wonder if the weaver itself saw it coming? Man.....thats gotta have some major reprecusions for the multiverse.

P.S.

Did Kane make it? Please tell me Kane lived.

[cyberghostface]

He appeared to have died last issue but it's ambiguous. We'll find out next issue.

[octopedingenue]

The "Previously on" text for this issue says that he died. Buuuut being an actual buried and/or eaten corpse hasn't stopped Kaine before, so. Maybe next issue they can give his corpse a good prodding with a stick.

If Kaine is actually 100% for really-reals dead after all, I will curl into a ball and cry. My Grumpy Spider!

[icon_uk]

Has the Master Weaver ever appeared before this story? There are so many darned cosmic entities and high muckkity-mucks around these days that I'm not sure another one will be missed much.

[burkeonthesly]

I'm calling it: Convergence is Otto's fault. He killed the weaver, now time and space are retroactively falling together.

[dark_tzitzimine]

That was an incredibly underwhelming ending. Most of the conflicts were solved off screen, Peter never did anything really relevant and lots of wasted opportunities.

May scenes were great but well, I was expecting more from an ending you know?

Is equally parts amusing and depressing that the mobile game managed to do more with the multiple spidermen concept.

[tigerkaya]

Wait the mobile version of Spiderverse is better than the comic, if it isn't written by Slott must be an improvement.

[cyberghostface]

To me the biggest issue was that a lot of stuff was going on in other titles. I mean for example Karn turning over a new leaf and deciding to help the Spider-Men occurred in the Spider-Verse anthology. Ben Reilly, Kaine and Ultimate Jessica destroying the cloning machine happened in the Scarlet Spiders miniseries. A lot of the character interactions also occurred elsewhere.

On one hand I get that there's only so much space to tell a story but on the other I look at something like Civil War which, as much as people here hate it, still managed to tell a self-contained story with the tie-in titles fleshing out their respective characters as opposed to major events and deaths occurring outside of the main mini.

[octopedingenue]

Spider-UK in the mobile game is ADORABLE. (He's adorable in the comics too.) And the Spider-Punk event today has Ben Reilly & Kaine talking to each other. MY CLONE BABIES.

[q99]

Overall it seems kinda.... straightforward?

Morlun and family are hunting Spiders. Spiders gather, lure him into a dimension where he can't live freely/is effectively trapped, done.

Like, it makes sense that it worked, but it's not exactly complex and doesn't seem like it needs a big spider army to do.

[octopedingenue]

On what planet is Daemos grateful for mercy?!

[draganoche]

I think that was mainly for May sparing his father which Daemos is shown to be pretty attached to.

[kevinroc]

Really underwhelming. Not really sold on Spider-Man/Silk. (Especially with the new Spider-Man film reboot coming.)

Camuncoli's really improved, though.

[ablackraptor]

Spider-Man and Silk will never work for me, mostly because of the questionable consent issues with their pheromone thing, especially after she tried to basically bully him into leaving New York with them.

Even if they get rid of that aspect completely and have them hook up 'legitimately', it'll be super creepy for me still.

[chrisdv]

And then with the death of the Master Weaver, all of the Spider-People killed by the Morluns came back to life, thereby rendering this entire event as completely & utterly pointless.

Ah, I can dream.

[yvonmukluk]

Wouldn't be surprised if Karn's first course of action as the new Master Weaver (come on, it's obvious that's what's coming next), other than hopefully unceremoniously mindwiping Otto and dumping him back in time before he can bullshit an out, is reviving the slain, because it's still a really fucking depressing ending otherwise.

But then there's a Spider-Verse Secret Wars spinoff with Mayday prominently featured, so I guess she doesn't get to go home just yet. I suspect Arachnia on Battleworld will be the chunk of Loomworld with all the Spiders on it who couldn't go home for whatever reason. Or they're actually pulling the 'Spider-verse Mayday is different from MC2 Mayday' card, since we know that's MC2 is on Battleworld from A-Next showing up in teasers.
Source:https://www.nerdist.com/2015/02/exclusive-mike-costa-talks-spider-verse-marvels-new-secret-wars-tie-in-series/

And it's not by Slott, so it might in fact be passable! Whereas Renew Your Vows/One More Day is his playground so urgghhhhh.

[locuatico]

i would not call a comic that gave us SPider-man meeting his Tokusatsu counterpart completely pointless...maybe 90% pointles but not completely pointless

GO LEOPARDON!

[jlbarnett]

you know if they really want a scene where Otto can show up Peter he should tell him something like "If you would have killed me it would have been more merciful for you, myself, and the world."

They missed a Spider totem. The best one too.

[7dialsmystery]

I'm honestly surprised and disappointed they didn't have Eric "Spider Hero" Brooks slaughter the Inheritors.

[beyondthefringe]

The conclusion/solution was... frustratingly underwhelming.
Because look, yeah, I know that Spider-Man as a rule and heroes in general shouldn't kill. But these guys-this entire family-have been chowing down on Spider-people for a long time. They've slaughtered dozens, hundreds, maybe thousands, sometimes right in front of our heroes. Hell, imagine that you've just seen other versions of yourself die in front of you. Literally seeing yourself die, over and over and over.

And the best solution is to stuff these guys in a bunker on an uninhabited, radioactive world? Where they can barely survive and presumably can't escape? Because that works so well. How long before they are rescued/find a way off that rock/steal a passing spaceship/I don't know what else, and are back somehow?

I know, I know, heroes don't kill. And maybe we'll get lucky, and Earth-3145 will promptly be destroyed by an incursion and we'll never see Morlun and his clan again.

For that matter, I wonder if that's why we'll see Spider-Verse in Secret Wars: the mass annihilation of universes (where it suddenly dwindles to 22 or so left) literally means some of the Spiders can't go home again. Surviving because they were absent from their home universes during the big wipeout.

[silverhammerman]

I don't think it would work with the character to have the Spider-People just executing the Inheritors, so the climax would have to be changed significantly, but I do kinda agree with you, and the very Slott specific "no one dies" idea has never worked for me.

[silverhammerman]

Legitimate question right now; Do you think that Marvel would have given Dan Slott the length of tenure (4 years since he took over as primary writer with Big Time) and creative latitude that they have if they'd had the rights to the movies?

It seems to me that outside of the pretty short ASM2/Electro tie-in, Slott's been more or less allowed to do his own thing because having a "classic" version of the character wasn't a priority. I'm curious if the new Marvel/Sony "joint custody" deal might mean that Spider-Man will be slated for some sort of change up.

[mrstatham]

The book sells under Slott, and the deal with Spider-Man's movie rights was not entirely the same as the deal with the rights for the X-Men/FF. Marvel just don't have the film rights, but they have the rights to everything else. So I don't think they'd be inclined to just let a writer do whatever just for the sake of publishing a 'Spider-Man' comic.

Also, that really depends on what you think their definition of a 'classic' Spider-Man story is. By all accounts, they seem to consider the removal of the marriage a return to 'classic' Spider-Man, and they've already made efforts to remove the less popular aspects brought in for BND and retained what worked.

[big_daddy_d]

Wait, was Spider-Ham naked?

[akodo_rokku]

Yes, because while Morlun was distracted, he swapped placed with Spider-Baby.

They beat the bad guys by pulling a "Willow".

[bizarrohulk]

Don't the Inheritors need to consume the life-force of sentient beings to survive? In which case, stranding them on a dead world with no means of escape is tantamount to a death sentence anyway.

[chrisdv]

It's okay, the Cabal or Ultimate Reed Richards probably blew up the planet 5 minutes after the Spideys left anyway. Loophole!

[cypherfdp]

Two important questions, did Benji make it, and did Leopardon come back?!

[cyberghostface]

Yes to both. :)