Well to be fair at this point most of the JLA either don't care or are afraid of Superman. I mean look at how easy Superman was going to kill Plastic Man. I mean I can see Shazam and Cyborg being that deluded as it's Superman due to their youth and hero-worship. I mean look at some guilty celebrities, this does happen in real life. Wonderwoman does not care and everybody is afraid of Superman. Which makes the scene where Wonderwoman beats him weird, as one of the points of the game is that nobody can take down Superman.
Wonderwoman beat Superman, and then Sinestro attacks her from behind. The Gods win, but the Gods threaten the world, which leads to Wonderwoman working with Superman despite being told she is suppose to be on Zeus's side. Then the Insurgency and the Regime work together to take on the Gods. Then with the Gods attacking, both sides find out Ares is working with Darkside. Superman fights Darkside, and Batman gets High Father to help out, and makes the God's decide to get over it. I missed some details, but the scans are on here.
He was going to *try* and kill Plastic Man. As the previous continuity showed, he's practically the most powerful meta around, explicitly on the Morrison era team to take down a rogue J'onn J'onzz.
I agree - how can they not think he's a despot - they've usurped the legal system, murdered numerous people, and Superman attacks anyone that annoys him. Even his own team is scared of him. After all that they think that what, they're promoting democracy?
That's one of the issues I have reading this series - it's one thing to say that Superman has lost his mind, and it's believable that Diana might go along - she's from a system led by despots (Zeus). But surely the others would realize they've become not just villains, but caricatures of villains.
- That's one of the issues I have reading this series - it's one thing to say that Superman has lost his mind, and it's believable that Diana might go along - she's from a system led by despots (Zeus).-
I gotta say, I *really* don't like how Diana's portrayal has shifted to the point that this is the case for not just one, but many of her versions, when, go back some time, and she'd be one of the most-against it in most of her versions. And has been known to tell Zeus to shove it on occasion.
-But surely the others would realize they've become not just villains, but caricatures of villains.-
Possibly. Though this universe seemed to start with some heroes different. And a number likely may be going for the, 'if I'm with them, I can soften things,' angle.
And of course the good old rationalization that everyone on the planet uses every day for our own misdeeds and petty cruelties "I know I'm not a bad guy, so it can't be bad if I'm doing it. Other people, they are the lazy, stupid, blind, evil [select per applicable prejudice] ones, but not me. I'm a good guy and I'm kind to my pets and my family and my friends, so that proves I'm not bad". It is easy enough to rationalize for us, most of which will never do anything truly heroic, imagine how easy it is for actual heroes who saved the world to fall into the trap of self-justification and denial.
By the point of the Injustice video game, any Super-beings left are either dead (Green Arrow), forced into hiding (Zatanna, Batgirl and Martian Manhunter, if his Arcade ending is to be taken as canon) or apart of the One World Government. The most prominent figures we see as part of said game are:
-Raven (whom has given in to her negative side, and is using Superman to make way for Trigon's return)
-Cyborg, Wonder Woman and Hal Jordan (corrupted by cynicism and vengeance following the destruction of Metropolis)
-Black Adam, Sinestro (whom tolerate Superman's discretions, as they resemble there own philosophies and ways of ruling their own lands)
-Damian Wayne (raised by Superman after being disowned by Bruce, for his involvement in Dick Grayson's death)
-Shazam and the Flash (where they believe Superman s right because he is Superman, but they begin to have their doubts)
-Lex Luthor (where Superman gets his funds, but is also a spy for and the only remaining member of Batman's Insurgency prior to the alternate universe's intervention)
-Bane, Killer Frost, Doomsday, Solomon Grundy and Hawkgirl (implied to have been inducted into the Regime's "Reeducation program (or brainwashing via imprisonment in the Phantom Zone, or a collar for Doomsday)")
-Aquaman and Catwoman (joined out of fear for whomever and whatever they hold dear being destroyed).
Or just burn a hole through his body with heat vision. Or shatter him after freeze breathing him rigid and shatterable. Plastic Man in conjunction with other heroes coming in and helping out would be a sight to see I'd say.
Eh, Croc's had a lot of different appearances over the years so it's never rwally bothers me. I always took this one as a more extreme version of the BTAS version, since that was kind of the Arkham game series whole thing. Shit, in Arkham Knight he looks downright Godzillian
I think Injustice used the same character models from Batman: Arkham City for their background (non playable) Batman villains (with the exception of Deadshot).
They definitely did. I couldn't stand that game, which is crazy because "Mortal Kombat with Batman in it" sounds like my dream video game, but the Arkham stage was pretty dope with all it's little cameos.
Ya know, what I like best about this is the seeming contradict with Plas' character.
He's a joker, a funny man who cracks wise, and is openly acknowledged as a man who runs away from some of his most important responsibilities. He himself knows how bad he is.
Yet, the entire time, he's (rightfully) treated as a dangerous threat. With basic use of his powers and all of two tools total, he led a massive jail break and could be an even bigger threat if he wanted to be.
You really don't see that with Marvel or DC characters, by in large (this and Squirrel girl don't count. Joke characters are jokes. Serious threats are serious.
I still remember one of the first things I saw on Scans Daily 3 or 4 years ago was Plastic Man's One Epic Moment taking it to Martian Manhunter after a pep talk from his son.
Well, it's nice that this Plas got out of the leotard and progressed to an actual pair of shorts. Maybe someday he'll get his big-boy pants like Robin did.
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Especially given that they all knew that punching Plastic Man wouldn't have really hurt him. This meeting, all things considered was rather tame.
I suspect that they're following him because he's Superman, and Superman's never wrong.
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When Superman kills Shazam infront of the regime nobody does anything. Damn, Grundy did more , by giving him burial, while Flash joined Batman's side.
Heck when Regular Universe Superman comes, Yellow Lantern just gives up his ring.
The Superman is never wrong crowd is only Shazam and Cyborg due to their youth.
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Thanks for the intel!
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That's one of the issues I have reading this series - it's one thing to say that Superman has lost his mind, and it's believable that Diana might go along - she's from a system led by despots (Zeus). But surely the others would realize they've become not just villains, but caricatures of villains.
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That's one of the issues I have reading this series - it's one thing to say that Superman has lost his mind, and it's believable that Diana might go along - she's from a system led by despots (Zeus).-
I gotta say, I *really* don't like how Diana's portrayal has shifted to the point that this is the case for not just one, but many of her versions, when, go back some time, and she'd be one of the most-against it in most of her versions. And has been known to tell Zeus to shove it on occasion.
-But surely the others would realize they've become not just villains, but caricatures of villains.-
Possibly. Though this universe seemed to start with some heroes different. And a number likely may be going for the, 'if I'm with them, I can soften things,' angle.
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And of course the good old rationalization that everyone on the planet uses every day for our own misdeeds and petty cruelties "I know I'm not a bad guy, so it can't be bad if I'm doing it. Other people, they are the lazy, stupid, blind, evil [select per applicable prejudice] ones, but not me. I'm a good guy and I'm kind to my pets and my family and my friends, so that proves I'm not bad". It is easy enough to rationalize for us, most of which will never do anything truly heroic, imagine how easy it is for actual heroes who saved the world to fall into the trap of self-justification and denial.
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Considering they've been upholding this Regime for five years now...
-Raven (whom has given in to her negative side, and is using Superman to make way for Trigon's return)
-Cyborg, Wonder Woman and Hal Jordan (corrupted by cynicism and vengeance following the destruction of Metropolis)
-Black Adam, Sinestro (whom tolerate Superman's discretions, as they resemble there own philosophies and ways of ruling their own lands)
-Damian Wayne (raised by Superman after being disowned by Bruce, for his involvement in Dick Grayson's death)
-Shazam and the Flash (where they believe Superman s right because he is Superman, but they begin to have their doubts)
-Lex Luthor (where Superman gets his funds, but is also a spy for and the only remaining member of Batman's Insurgency prior to the alternate universe's intervention)
-Bane, Killer Frost, Doomsday, Solomon Grundy and Hawkgirl (implied to have been inducted into the Regime's "Reeducation program (or brainwashing via imprisonment in the Phantom Zone, or a collar for Doomsday)")
-Aquaman and Catwoman (joined out of fear for whomever and whatever they hold dear being destroyed).
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He's a joker, a funny man who cracks wise, and is openly acknowledged as a man who runs away from some of his most important responsibilities. He himself knows how bad he is.
Yet, the entire time, he's (rightfully) treated as a dangerous threat. With basic use of his powers and all of two tools total, he led a massive jail break and could be an even bigger threat if he wanted to be.
You really don't see that with Marvel or DC characters, by in large (this and Squirrel girl don't count. Joke characters are jokes. Serious threats are serious.
Nice to see some mild variation
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See Joe Kelly's JLA run especially.
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