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history79) wrote in scans_daily2016-12-30 02:54 pm
What utter tripe. And to imagine, I used to like Ewing. Thats it, I've dropped his stuff.
Who is next, Captain Britain explaining why he always wanted to be an American? Sabra? T'Challa?
The fact that Ewing is trying to pull on the good days of the New Mutants for his jingo makes this so much worse.
And when you throw in the fact that Marvel has been whitewashing Roberto for years... now they are dropping the "Brazillian" aspect of the character
Jesus, didn't take long after the election.
Who is next, Captain Britain explaining why he always wanted to be an American? Sabra? T'Challa?
The fact that Ewing is trying to pull on the good days of the New Mutants for his jingo makes this so much worse.
And when you throw in the fact that Marvel has been whitewashing Roberto for years... now they are dropping the "Brazillian" aspect of the character
Jesus, didn't take long after the election.
I still don't see Berto renouncing his Brazilian nationality, though it's nice to see him being drawn with what appears to be actually dark skin (even if only in flashback)
(Plus it might work a little better as a reason if it weren't for the fact that only two people in that room WERE American. Rahne's British and Xian is Vietnamese.)
(Plus it might work a little better as a reason if it weren't for the fact that only two people in that room WERE American. Rahne's British and Xian is Vietnamese.)
now they are dropping the "Brazillian" aspect of the character
I still don't see Berto renouncing his Brazilian nationality
People realize that dual citizenship's a thing, right?
I still don't see Berto renouncing his Brazilian nationality
People realize that dual citizenship's a thing, right?
I think my problem is the implication that America had anything to do with that moment. His point is not clear to me. I don't see how bonding with Sam, Dani, Xian and Rahne made him want to be American. If anything, the American mutant experience should've made him bitter since the American government at the time was persecuting all of them because of their identity as mutants. They were bonding because they had to hide and fight for survival.
Actually, I didn't know that. I knew you from the UK but not exactly where.
But I don't recall seeing a Scottish person refer to themselves as British. It's like a Hawaiian calling themselves "American." Factually true, but I've never seen one refer to themselves as "American" first and foremost.
Granted, my experiences with both are limited, so I could be dead wrong about that.
But I don't recall seeing a Scottish person refer to themselves as British. It's like a Hawaiian calling themselves "American." Factually true, but I've never seen one refer to themselves as "American" first and foremost.
Granted, my experiences with both are limited, so I could be dead wrong about that.
In a discussion about nationality and citizenship I felt it important to establish legal citizenship status, over standard terminology.
I would probably describe myself as Scottish, but my nationality is British nevertheless.
Actually, most people work out I'm Scottish from the moment I open my mouth as my accent is quite strong, so I rarely need to elaborate. Typing maks it a mickle mair muddled, y'ken?
;)
I would probably describe myself as Scottish, but my nationality is British nevertheless.
Actually, most people work out I'm Scottish from the moment I open my mouth as my accent is quite strong, so I rarely need to elaborate. Typing maks it a mickle mair muddled, y'ken?
;)
I wouldn't be so quick to discount Ewing. As a British writer, he's less likely than many to embrace an American jingoism, and, if anything if the concept for this series is to suggest, he may be playing it up for story elements and social commentary. I get the feeling that USAvengers is going to be over-the-top, possibly as part of Roberto's master plan, and perhaps claiming that he's always wanted to be American is part of his new "image" as Citizen V.
I mean c'mon, in the same page Ewing references the early New Mutant days in a way few have done for years, right down to the love of Magnum P.I.
Given that the entire previous series was composed of fakeouts, double-agents, secret plans and clever tricks, culminating in an awesome reunion of the New Mutants, I bet this is more of the same and nothing is as it seems on the surface. I'd give him more of a chance than what we see on a single page. Unless you had more issues with him than just this.
And somehow, I doubt we'd ever see any of the others you mentioned deciding to renounce their existing citizenships; it's just not in line with their characters or stories. But for the X-Men, it doesn't feel as out of place for many of them to become U.S. citizens after they've been in America for a while--they seem to claim it as home, y'know? Except for ones like Sunfire, who actually embrace their own nationalism.
I'm adopting the usual wait and see, because Ewing rarely disappoints.
I mean c'mon, in the same page Ewing references the early New Mutant days in a way few have done for years, right down to the love of Magnum P.I.
Given that the entire previous series was composed of fakeouts, double-agents, secret plans and clever tricks, culminating in an awesome reunion of the New Mutants, I bet this is more of the same and nothing is as it seems on the surface. I'd give him more of a chance than what we see on a single page. Unless you had more issues with him than just this.
And somehow, I doubt we'd ever see any of the others you mentioned deciding to renounce their existing citizenships; it's just not in line with their characters or stories. But for the X-Men, it doesn't feel as out of place for many of them to become U.S. citizens after they've been in America for a while--they seem to claim it as home, y'know? Except for ones like Sunfire, who actually embrace their own nationalism.
I'm adopting the usual wait and see, because Ewing rarely disappoints.
I wonder if what we're seeing isn't whitewashing so much as an M-Pox-derived pallor. Otherwise, why show us "original Bobby" on the same page as the modern, less dark, version? At least that's my hope.
1) You're really great at overreacting based upon a partial sample of stories you haven't read.
2) This book was first advertised back in late June, which means it was written and drawn well before the results of the presidential election.
2) This book was first advertised back in late June, which means it was written and drawn well before the results of the presidential election.
Someone had died, he was coming to terms.. about the right mindset to be affected by " Did you see the sun rise this morning? "
You know Ewing is British, right?
What makes you think Roberto is going to abandon his Brazilian heritage outright? Dual Citizenship is a thing, after all, and Bobby has spent a lot of his time in the states...I don't think Ewing, who has a very clear love for exploring the history of these characters is going to ignore that part of him.
Also Bobby has very clear dark skin in these scans, so hey, they're actually reversing the whitewashing.
What makes you think Roberto is going to abandon his Brazilian heritage outright? Dual Citizenship is a thing, after all, and Bobby has spent a lot of his time in the states...I don't think Ewing, who has a very clear love for exploring the history of these characters is going to ignore that part of him.
Also Bobby has very clear dark skin in these scans, so hey, they're actually reversing the whitewashing.
As a Latin-American myself, I clicked on the link and expected to be upset. But... I'm not. He didn't become American because America is the bestest nation in the history of blah blah blah-- the standard jingoistic crap. He became American because his nakama was American. Had the New Mutants been based out of France or Japan, he would have become a French or Japanese citizen.
That's not implicitly shitting on every other country-- including his motherland--the way I thought this post would go. It's just acknowledging the importance of family. I can respect that.
That's not implicitly shitting on every other country-- including his motherland--the way I thought this post would go. It's just acknowledging the importance of family. I can respect that.
Edited 2016-12-30 19:40 (UTC)
And I'm not entirely certain how much Dani identifies as an American. I don't remember it coming up much.
Shans actually the one person there I can see going for American citizenship. She is an immigrant, a refugee, and by the time that picture happened she had a job and two children to take care of. Her, I would not be surprised to fain that she had gotten citizenship.
Well, except for the American governments regrettable tendency to throw giant murder machines at them. But asides from that.
Shans actually the one person there I can see going for American citizenship. She is an immigrant, a refugee, and by the time that picture happened she had a job and two children to take care of. Her, I would not be surprised to fain that she had gotten citizenship.
Well, except for the American governments regrettable tendency to throw giant murder machines at them. But asides from that.
Also if one reads the whole preview the villain is pretty... Trumpy.
Well, he travels to the U.S. and like expats do one does think about location and culture a lot and I don't find it farfetched that he sees American ideals (at the time and naively) reflected in his newfound friendships. Of course he's had harsh lessons in persecution and survival.
America the ideal =/= the American Government.
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