She-Hulk Is the Same Thing As Hulk, Right?

[informationgeek]

Soooooo, about Avengers #2...














.....................................what the hell was that crap?

Comments

[reveen]

Wow, uhhh... is Jennifer doing a bit or something?

[berani00]

This was her back when she was Grey She-Hulk, right?
...Right?

[zachbeacon]

So what's the first instance of this kind of thing anyway? The Search for She-Hulk arc in Avengers?

[lordultimus]

Marvel fans: Hooray! Bendis is gone! Finally characters will act the way they're supposed to!

Jason Aaron: Hold my beer.

[dcbanacek]

What the HELL knocked a CELESTIAL on it's ass?

Also, I don't think Jennifer talked like that back in her ORIGINAL series from almost 40 years ago... geez, time flies.

[deh_tommy]

I think even Grey She-hulk was (however barely) more articulate than this. She was at least a violent beast driven by fear and grief, whereas this just seems like a generic “Hulk smash” persona.

[deh_tommy]

I think this is the first time main-universe She-Hulk actually talks and acts like this (I think).

[crinos]

...Hey remember that time that She Hulk slept with the Juggernaut? And everyone gave her shit over it and slut shamed her in a court of law for it because apparently sex between two consenting adults is something worth being embarrassed over? And so they retconned it that it was a Jen who was a tourist from a parallel reality, and they explained that this parallel reality has people come over all the time and that's the reason for all these weird OOC moments and contradicitons in Marvel comics? Because apparently having sex with Juggernaut was such a black mark on Jen's ledger it had to be removed,

I'm not saying this characterization isn't more embarrassing than that subplot, but its pretty close.

[zachbeacon]

Well on fairness sleeping with a client is shady no matter who they are. I've always treated the comics by the writer responsible as non-canon so I probably wouldn't give it a second thought if not for Slott's need to retcon it away.

Aaron's Jen just seems another case of people not understanding that Bruce's big green (or grey) counterpart is the way he is because Bruce is mentally unstable, not because he's the Hulk. I dislike any attempt to apply the same logic to Jen, the Rosses, Amadeus, ect that they do to Bruce.

[kore]

I don't know who that is, but that is not my Jen.


(Tiny irrelevant nitpicky detail, but....she's from L.A.!)

[kore]

HAH. //sob

[malitia]

The Loki parts are also postable from this in the "let's anger the fans" category. :/

[bruinsfan]

She sort of did very briefly in Ewing's Mighty Avengers when Monica Rambeau supercharged her with gamma rays and forced a transformation into a stronger, more brutish form. But even then, it was more like she was drugged or speaking through pain, not referring to herself in third person like her cousin.

[flint_marko]

What does he do?

[crinos]

Yeah, I agree sleeping with a client is sketchy, but I don't think it was ever addressed from that angle when used to attack Jen. It was always "Oh my God Jen slept with the Juggernaut! The Juggernaut! Jen's a sluuuuut. Everyone laugh at the sluuuut."

[lordultimus]

It's looking like he's a villain again, regressing his character development from Agent of Asgard.

[malitia]

And by villain imagine the worst monologuing, genocidal, cliched villainy ever. (And no there is no sign in this book that he doesn't mean it.)

[scorntx]

His character development from Agent of Asgard.
And Young Avengers.
And Journey into Mystery.

In fact, all of the various Lokis and their character development since 2011. Possibly even earlier.

(Still waiting on Proper Loki and Verity stepping out of that door in the empty void...)

[scorntx]

-there is no sign in this book that he doesn't mean it-

Well, there is that "I don't want to do this" line at one point.
Buuut being a cynical grump, I hafta say that sounds like a "there, now shut up and stop complaining, nerds!" kind of line.

[malitia]

At this point the worst thing to happen to Loki in this last decade is Jason Aaron.

[scorntx]

Hey, kids, remember when the Celestials were, like, super-duper unstoppable?
And by unstoppable we don't mean "needs a Hulk to stop", we mean "can't even be scratched by super-charged Odin" unstoppable?
Remember those days? Do ya, huh? Do ya?
Back before every five weeks there's a dead Celestial just... dropping out of the skies?
Logos, the Beyonders, that stupid axe from Remender's Avengers, freaking Kang, KANG of all people...

They've gone from utterly impenetrable and inscrutable beings to a whole species of freaking Waspinators.
(only without the lovableness, obviously.)

[scorntx]

There was also a storyline in Geoff Johns' Avengers when she inhaled some death gas or something and went insane for a few issues.

[gnarll]

He couldn't be Jens client though. It was a Canadian court of law. Jen can't practice law in Canada, and she does not have a degree in Canadian law. At best she was there as some kind of advisor.

[gnarll]

So much this.

[strejdaking]

What's in-universe explanation for Jen acting like this?