I think even Grey She-hulk was (however barely) more articulate than this. She was at least a violent beast driven by fear and grief, whereas this just seems like a generic “Hulk smash” persona.
...Hey remember that time that She Hulk slept with the Juggernaut? And everyone gave her shit over it and slut shamed her in a court of law for it because apparently sex between two consenting adults is something worth being embarrassed over? And so they retconned it that it was a Jen who was a tourist from a parallel reality, and they explained that this parallel reality has people come over all the time and that's the reason for all these weird OOC moments and contradicitons in Marvel comics? Because apparently having sex with Juggernaut was such a black mark on Jen's ledger it had to be removed,
I'm not saying this characterization isn't more embarrassing than that subplot, but its pretty close.
Well on fairness sleeping with a client is shady no matter who they are. I've always treated the comics by the writer responsible as non-canon so I probably wouldn't give it a second thought if not for Slott's need to retcon it away.
Aaron's Jen just seems another case of people not understanding that Bruce's big green (or grey) counterpart is the way he is because Bruce is mentally unstable, not because he's the Hulk. I dislike any attempt to apply the same logic to Jen, the Rosses, Amadeus, ect that they do to Bruce.
No, this is far more embarrassing than banging Cain Marko. This is Marvel not even caring. I hope this book tanks, but I'm not hopeful this book tanks. This may be a lasting characterization for Jen now.
She's very definitely from Los Angeles. Marvel seems obsessed with dragging characters from the rest of the USA to NYC though. She-Hulk (L.A.) and Howard the Duck (Cleveland, I think?) were in the same office building in Brooklyn for a while.
Hey, kids, remember when the Celestials were, like, super-duper unstoppable? And by unstoppable we don't mean "needs a Hulk to stop", we mean "can't even be scratched by super-charged Odin" unstoppable? Remember those days? Do ya, huh? Do ya? Back before every five weeks there's a dead Celestial just... dropping out of the skies? Logos, the Beyonders, that stupid axe from Remender's Avengers, freaking Kang, KANG of all people...
They've gone from utterly impenetrable and inscrutable beings to a whole species of freaking Waspinators. (only without the lovableness, obviously.)
Funny thing is I don't know Jen at all and I also read this community via rss so I didn't see the preview text or tags, I plainly guessed from the title of the post that it is about Avengers #2. Good job, Aaron, good job -_-
As if the last 50 years of characterization were basically ignored. Everyone is way too glib, and the big reveal of the heel wasn't exactly hard to figure out well ahead of time.
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Date: 2018-05-16 01:53 pm (UTC)...Right?
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Date: 2018-05-16 02:11 pm (UTC)Jason Aaron: Hold my beer.
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Date: 2018-05-16 02:36 pm (UTC)Also, I don't think Jennifer talked like that back in her ORIGINAL series from almost 40 years ago... geez, time flies.
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Date: 2018-05-16 02:55 pm (UTC)I'm not saying this characterization isn't more embarrassing than that subplot, but its pretty close.
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Date: 2018-05-16 03:21 pm (UTC)Aaron's Jen just seems another case of people not understanding that Bruce's big green (or grey) counterpart is the way he is because Bruce is mentally unstable, not because he's the Hulk. I dislike any attempt to apply the same logic to Jen, the Rosses, Amadeus, ect that they do to Bruce.
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Date: 2018-05-16 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-05-16 03:36 pm (UTC)(Tiny irrelevant nitpicky detail, but....she's from L.A.!)
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Date: 2018-05-16 05:38 pm (UTC)And by unstoppable we don't mean "needs a Hulk to stop", we mean "can't even be scratched by super-charged Odin" unstoppable?
Remember those days? Do ya, huh? Do ya?
Back before every five weeks there's a dead Celestial just... dropping out of the skies?
Logos, the Beyonders, that stupid axe from Remender's Avengers, freaking Kang, KANG of all people...
They've gone from utterly impenetrable and inscrutable beings to a whole species of freaking Waspinators.
(only without the lovableness, obviously.)
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Date: 2018-05-16 08:09 pm (UTC)Good job, Aaron, good job -_-
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Date: 2018-05-16 10:58 pm (UTC)Every. Single. Character. Felt. Off.
As if the last 50 years of characterization were basically ignored. Everyone is way too glib, and the big reveal of the heel wasn't exactly hard to figure out well ahead of time.
This just wasn't good. At all.
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