NS: New Joker trailer

[cyberghostface]

The second trailer for Mr. J's film is here.

"JOKER - Final Trailer" (Watch on YouTube)

Comments

[cyberghostface]

Fans of Batman/Joker
Fans of Joaquin Phoenix
Fans of gritty crime films like Taxi Driver
etc etc

[polly1788]

theres no batman in this, infact im pretty sure this being done before bruce is born

its film bout the joker with none of his supporting cast

[cyberghostface]

No, Bruce is in this and his role is fairly important.

[locuatico]

As a kid.
So Gotham fans

[cyberghostface]

Gotham is another example of how you don’t need Batman in costume to be successful. Heck there’s an Alfred prequel series on right now that takes place before Bruce was even conceived.

[locuatico]

I am not arguing if you need Batman. I am dubious this is for Batman fans. I don't think the Alfred prequel has Bruce Wayne fans as their primary target, for example.

This movie is for Joker fans, with a Bruce Wayne character to give something to Batman fans, but this movie is not aimed at them.

At the very best, it's for Killing Joke fans.

[polly1788]

but the killing joke is kinda of boils down to saying that the one can not exist without the other

[locuatico]

Which, if my gut feeling is correct, will translate into Joker finishing his path into villainy by killing the Waynes, which in turns will mean Batman is born.
But honestly, I was more about how Killing Joke fans sometimes seem unaware there are other Batman stories.

[polly1788]

i hope not, i view the joker as the universe's answer to batman. one being order the other chaos.

gotcha ya, i always treat it as a standlone story set in its own universe

[michaelsaint]

I agree that a lot of this is the Killing Joke but they are leaning hard into making Joker a kind of every-man, so I think they expect this to have wide appeal, not just comic book fans.

[locuatico]

well yeah. minus some specific exceptions, most superhero movies need to work that balance out with a focus on mass appeal.
but the succesful ones rarely alienate comic fans, given they tend to be the quickest to spread the word of mouth and work on the Hype machine.

[owlbrigade1]

Does the role involve watching his mother lose a string of pearls in an alley?

[cyberghostface]

The guy punching Joker is Thomas Wayne so take that as you will.

[shadowkat]

Also fans of gritty Robert Deniro films --- there's the one in which Robert Deniro played the crazed comedian who went after Jerry Lewis's talk show host...can't remember the name of it, except I didn't like the film. Here, Deniro is basically playing the Jerry Lewis role and Joaquin Phoenix is playing Deniro's...

[cricharddavies]

The King of Comedy.