Two-Face and the Riddler get stoned together

[thehefner]

A "lost" scene from BATMAN FOREVER:





See, this? This is what happens when you have Denny O'Neil write your adaptation.

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[yaseen101]

:rechecks sources: DAM YOU, WIKIPEDIA! YOU LIED TO TO MEEEEE!


- Still though, unlike most I can't really wrap my mind around losing the Zorro and the Detective angle. It's like taking away Stark's iconic moustache and a significant portion of his engineering skills and later have him build a circuit board in the next movie and shout 'See! See! He's doing engineering and stuff now!'. It's something that goes all the way back to the Kane/Finger era and just dropping those two aspects are just mind boggling. Not to mention Bats isn't really about fear and guilt, it's about justice, not letting others go through the same pain as you have gone through and trying to do the right thing and your fair share in a crap sack world.

- Yeah I agree, Leslie is one of those characters, as long as no writer tries to simplify her, would have made a great foil to Bruce/Batman. It's helps if the writers keep in mind that they are *both* right and wrong to the same extent.

- They get the best possible guy to play the part and have him deliver the best on-screen performance of the character only to have him killed off when his character finally becomes what we were all waiting him to be. Ouch!

-Exactly! Iron Man is one of the few superhero movies to have captured the spirit of comic books. The best comics are the ones where I can switch between reading for the light hearted, fun super hero fluff the first time and the deeper more subtle stuff the second time. It's never one way or the other when it comes to the best comic books, it's both!

-Thanks for the heads up for 'Inception', I've been torn all week between my gut instincts telling me not to watch it and stay veeeeeery far away from it and everyone else telling how awesome it is. BTW, what didn't you like about it?

[thehefner]

And thus you've nailed the very core problem with BB's Bruce.

My problem with INCEPTION was, first off, that I could see where it was going from early on, already guessing the big climactic reveals and the oh-so-secret ending that everyone has been telling everyone else not to talk about because OMG SPOILERS FOR THE SHOCKING TWIST...

... all of which would have been fine if they had populated the film with characters who were actually interesting people rather than bland plot devices serving their function in a fantastical heist picture. At least then, I could have cared about watching the story unfold. I could have cared about the whole journey of the main character. I could have actually given a shit when it ended the way it did, instead of thinking about what a boring, humorless, lifeless, ponderous slog that was.

But mine is the minority opinion, as I've read the three words "INCEPTION is awesome!" so many times by now, it's like a frickin' meme. Some people find the exploration of lucid dreaming absolutely fascinating, and indeed, the film does give people a whole world with rules to play around in, which is why I think it would make an awesome video game.

At the end of the day, when it comes to Nolan and his themes about wives, guilt, and one's own preferred reality, I'll still take MEMENTO, thanks.

[yaseen101]

I see. I think the 'people as plot devices' was something that was partly visible at times, in his Bat-verse as well.

I also, realized that I forgot to mention the exclusion of Martha Wayne in the movie. Seriously where the hell was Bruce's mom? /sarcasm.

So, Inception is off of my 'have to see this one day' list. I might watch it just so I can pitch in to a conversation should one turn up.

Speaking of Memento, I've been planning to watch the Hindi movie 'inspired' by it named Ghanjini. So far from what I've seen, no standard copy catting, it looks like the only thing that they have in common is that the main character suffers from Antegorade Amnesia and his wife was killed so he uses Polaroid pictures and tattoos to track the man who did it, every thing else is, thankfully, completely original. Plus, it looks I'm going to be satisfied on the female front as well, since the wife gets her back story expanded and part the main narrative follows a female medical student investigating the main character.

[thehefner]

For that matter, where the hell is Martha Wayne in the comics themselves? Thomas gets all the love and focus in his flashbacks, it seems.

I dare say it's worth seeing if you at all care about being in on something which shall undoubtedly influence nerd-culture for awhile. The AV Club already reported, as if it were actual pop culture news, that the Urban Dictionary has the word "ineption" for anybody who doesn't appreciate INCEPTION. So there you go.

Huh! Sounds intriguing, I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

[yaseen101]

Eh, I noticed that even the most ignorant writers seems to at least dedicate a panel for the character but sadly not many writers (including Paul Dini sadly) are interested in developing the character. However, there have been some good Martha Wayne stuff, there's that one DCAU tie in issue with wittle Bruce and Martha, the Batman:Family mini series involving a villain named Celia whose origin is tied to Martha, Batman: Death and Maiden (written by Greg Rucka) and I even heard about an interesting Martha Wayne-centric book which deals with child slavery in Turkey, not sure wth happened to that. I think the problem is, that unlike Thomas, no one has really taken the bait and started developing what other writers have set-up. :(

I guess I should, the last thing I want is to fall back on today's pop culture nerdiness.

It was released in 2008 and very popular, so I guess it shouldn't be too difficult to find it. Plus, I don't think I would have had the heart to recommend it were it not for the fact that Aamir Khan was starring in it. Whatever he has done this decade since Fanaa is worth watching. Also, I listed another potentially interesting movie that was released last week.