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starwolf_oakley ([personal profile] starwolf_oakley) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-11-18 07:37 pm

X-MEN: The AoA Iceman

We've been discussing how "all new, all different" Iceman is going to be, and if Iceman is going to be similar to the Age of Apocalypse Iceman. But how powerful was the AoA Iceman, and was he *anything* like "our" Bobby Drake?
Well, no. As I've said, he's more like sentient ice. I don't even think he resumes human form at all during AOA.



Magneto quotes Yogi Berra!



Pages after the cut.



As in this reality, Apocalypse has conquered most of North America and murdered millions of people, Bobby Drake isn't exactly the X-Men's resident "goofball accountant."

From X-MEN ALPHA:



From ASTONISHING X-MEN (vol 1) #1:



Six pages from AMAZING X-MEN #1:











From AMAZING X-MEN #2:

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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-11-19 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
It was mentioned back in his 1980's four issue miniseries (Whose most notable claim, much like Darkseid debuting in a Jimmy Olsen comic was that it introduced Oblivion, who would be revealed to be one of the "Big Four" cosmic entities of the MU) than Bobby has two powers, one is the ability to manipulate water vapour and the other to absorb thermal energy from any source (And that can mean that if there isn't enough ambient moisture, he can pull water out of his own body to form the ice, though it was very dangerous to do so for obvious reasons.

It was the "Emma Frost posseses Iceman's body" which seems to have been the first move towards him getting his wider ranger of powers. Because Emma was interesting is neeing what he could do, and wasn't worried about hurting Bobby's body since she didn't plan on being in it long, she demonstrated all sort of new tricks, like reshaping the body, adding things like razor sharp edges to it, and being able to convert entirely into a liquid form for faster travel.

Generally I like the idea he's got more powers than he's shown before, and him doing a "Swamp Thing" style regrowing his body elsewhere I can get behind (Throw in a couple of limitations like needing a sub-zero pathway to travel through) but that "Molecular Inversion teleportation for people other than himself" struck me as an annoyingly random "We need a teleporter... Who can we bafflegab into being one?" situation
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[personal profile] arbre_rieur 2011-11-19 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Was the moisture/molecular inversion thing only ever mentioned in the one scene posted above, or did it show up elsewhere?
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-11-19 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's mentioned (and done) a couple of times in AoA, but it's never even been hinted at as a power for mainstream Bobby that I'm aware of.
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[personal profile] arbre_rieur 2011-11-19 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
What is it? Turning into vapor to travel to another location?
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-11-19 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much, but with the added tweak that he can do the same to other people (and their clothing) and reconstitute them perfectly at the other end.