Loving the new Emma/Kitty dynamic. Do we have any scans of how this new relationship of theirs came to be? I know the whole Krakoan thing is putting old enmities aside, but that doesn't mean Kitty and Emma necessarily have to like each other, so I'm trusting there's more to it?
In universe its a case of Kate having matured, let go of her pointless and ridiculous grudge against Emma and the two of them having buried the hatchet
The IRL reason is because Kate is no longer being written by talentless misogynists who can't write women and who were creepily obsessed with her thirteen year old self in the old Claremont stories
And so she's no longer being used as a mouthpiece for their hatred/slutshaming of Emma Frost based on the way she dresses/acts and instead we're getting this wonderful and femslashy interaction instead. Which is yet another way the current X-books have improved on what came before
Pointless and ridiculous grudge? Slut-shaming? Talentless misogynists? I wouldn’t exactly say Kitty’s “matured” - if anything, her pirate Queen role has made her a bit more immature.
I don't think the current dynamic happens without what was done by Whedon. He might be an incredibly disappointing shitty man, but he still actually. Emma never really got all that much of a "redemption arc", it was just kinda decided she was an X-Man now.
Which to be fair is how most villains end up joining the group. If anything, I think *Emma* is the one who might have grown and matured here, as she's been historically presented as catty and very much the kind of woman who hates other women.
TL;DR it's not a pointless grudge when someone did a lot of bad things to you and your friends and then just kinda got a pass for it for reasons.
Emma got a redemption arc back during Generation X, long before she joined the X-men.
That's fair though that I think Emma has matured and grown as a person as well. I wouldn't say she ever HATED other women though. I'd say it would be more accurate that she used to try not to care about ANYONE regardless of their gender because she'd been let down so many times when she did
Well yeah, they had to put in all that tragic backstory to make Emma someone most people could empathize with, rather than just a rich upper class white woman using her power in whatever abusive way she wanted.
I'll cop to not really reading Generation X after the first handful of issues, though. I will say it's pretty ironic what's happened to most of the GenX kids when they were basically given to Emma as a "sorry your last group of kids got murdered."
And yeah, I guess what I was trying to say was... I mean, Emma was kinda the pick me girl of the hellfire club? Aping the misogyny and general terribleness to show that she was just as strong as anyone else.
agree. And frankly, the time period where Emma and Kitty/Kate knew each other and her experiences should have left a life long grudge, that would have been totally appropriate
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The IRL reason is because Kate is no longer being written by talentless misogynists who can't write women and who were creepily obsessed with her thirteen year old self in the old Claremont stories
And so she's no longer being used as a mouthpiece for their hatred/slutshaming of Emma Frost based on the way she dresses/acts and instead we're getting this wonderful and femslashy interaction instead. Which is yet another way the current X-books have improved on what came before
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I love Kate as the Red Queen and I think it's some of the best writing she has got in a long, LONG time
Much better than the garbage she had to endure when being handled by "Writers" like Whedon or Aaron
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Which to be fair is how most villains end up joining the group. If anything, I think *Emma* is the one who might have grown and matured here, as she's been historically presented as catty and very much the kind of woman who hates other women.
TL;DR it's not a pointless grudge when someone did a lot of bad things to you and your friends and then just kinda got a pass for it for reasons.
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That's fair though that I think Emma has matured and grown as a person as well. I wouldn't say she ever HATED other women though. I'd say it would be more accurate that she used to try not to care about ANYONE regardless of their gender because she'd been let down so many times when she did
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I'll cop to not really reading Generation X after the first handful of issues, though. I will say it's pretty ironic what's happened to most of the GenX kids when they were basically given to Emma as a "sorry your last group of kids got murdered."
And yeah, I guess what I was trying to say was... I mean, Emma was kinda the pick me girl of the hellfire club? Aping the misogyny and general terribleness to show that she was just as strong as anyone else.
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