Bruce and Barbara is a thing which never should have happened, for so many reasons, not just because of Dick's own role in the relationship. The sheer nature of the power imbalance between them, with Bruce as mentor/teacher/employer/boss/person with influence... even if Barbara is a grown woman in there of her own volition, it doesn't feel like a partnership or relationship between equals.
And yeah, I'd also say the same thing about Bruce and any of his sidekicks/mentees... Dick, Tim, Jason, Cassandra, Stephanie... The only members of the Bat-clan who I believe to come to Bruce as partners not unduly influenced by him would of course be Selena, Harley, Ghost-Maker, Helena (depending on which version we're using -this- week).
Agreed. The DCAU didn't make many missteps, but, boy-howdy, when they put their foot in it they did it big style. Bruce/Barbara was a huge misstep, it was a huge mistake. It isn't like there weren't other ways for Bruce to fall out with Barbara and Dick either, it would have been believable enough for him to have become distanced without that. I kinda hate that they keep on doubling down on it too.
I loved Batman Beyond (or Batman of the Future or whatever it’s called), but some things were a bit hard to swallow (like Superman losing untold years of his life to Starro, or the uncertain fates of Bruce’s love interests, or how Batman ultimately didn’t really solve anything).
But sheesh, these comics were awful. Isn’t this the same book that had Wonder Woman basically sell herself to a political marriage with the Justice Lords or something?
"But sheesh, these comics were awful. Isn’t this the same book that had Wonder Woman basically sell herself to a political marriage with the Justice Lords or something?"
You mean the writer that treated an adult woman like a rare Pokemon card two men were fighting over ownership over also wrote a story where Wonder Woman sold herself into indentured servitude
It is almost as if this writer has some kind of issues with women
I always thought the idea of them being intimate was ham-fisted. It felt like it happened for no other reason other than to start drama. There was no hints, build-up, etc.....it was like "Bam!" right out of the blue.
At least with Catwoman it was foreshadowed and over a period of time of flirty behavior.
What if one day the writers wanted to start more drama by Bruce being intimate with Cassandra Cain or Stephanie? Yeeesh......
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And yeah, I'd also say the same thing about Bruce and any of his sidekicks/mentees... Dick, Tim, Jason, Cassandra, Stephanie... The only members of the Bat-clan who I believe to come to Bruce as partners not unduly influenced by him would of course be Selena, Harley, Ghost-Maker, Helena (depending on which version we're using -this- week).
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But sheesh, these comics were awful. Isn’t this the same book that had Wonder Woman basically sell herself to a political marriage with the Justice Lords or something?
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That's also why Babs stopped dating Bruce
"I had to unhinge my goddamn jaw"
"But sheesh, these comics were awful. Isn’t this the same book that had Wonder Woman basically sell herself to a political marriage with the Justice Lords or something?"
You mean the writer that treated an adult woman like a rare Pokemon card two men were fighting over ownership over also wrote a story where Wonder Woman sold herself into indentured servitude
It is almost as if this writer has some kind of issues with women
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At least with Catwoman it was foreshadowed and over a period of time of flirty behavior.
What if one day the writers wanted to start more drama by Bruce being intimate with Cassandra Cain or Stephanie? Yeeesh......
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No no, what Professor Pyg does that's ham-fisted
"What if one day the writers wanted to start more drama by Bruce being intimate with Cassandra Cain or Stephanie? Yeeesh......"
That would be nonsense because Cass and Steph are clearly fucking each other