"So, in this world, Doctor Doom doesn't immediately take advantage of the FF's debilitation to kill them?" "Nope. He fell down and went BOOM!" "And the Skrulls? They just left Earth alone after that for no real reason?" "Also fell down and went BOOM!" "and what about the Mad Thinker? Or Magneto or-" "FELL. DOWN. WENT. BOOM."
Really, that's the problem with this lazy half-assed approach.
"Yeah nah, all the challenges and threats that occur regularly as past of an ongoing serial narrative that needs to keep it's readers engaged? Just never came up, NBD."
All that may have been compensated by Reed harnessing Zero Energy. Or the other heroes being more eager to help the FF, or to join the for a time. Or the Skrulls being scared shitless because those earthians just freaking killed Galactus .
Galactus has been killed, turned back into Galaan or turned into Lifebringer, and nothing bad happened. I guess most writers either don't know or choose to ignore that universal balance or Abraxas thingy for the main continuity, and even more for alternate universes.
Or one could no-price that the 8th (post Secret Wars) universe doesn't have the exact same rules as the 7th. Especially if Reed had something to say about it.
I thought that post-SW stuff excused the Lifebringer angle, as part of Ewing’s Ultimates story was the cosmic balance was up for grabs. Chaos and Order staged that coup.
Didn’t know Galactus had been killed or de-powered for extended periods. My main exposure to him has been Byrne’s FF.
I don't know why Thor killed him (I haven't been reading that book) but in FF the Destroyer armour is being used because Galactus needs a physical form and it was a former herald of his.
He was effectively killed for a good while by the Poppupians and the High Evolutionary back in FF#175. Death doesn't seem to stick for him though, maybe because he's the third point of the triangle made with Death and Eternity.
He was also depowered during the Waid/Wieringo run on FF, but that was a short-lived situation.
"Wait...dad...in this world, the lack of a cosmic predator thinning out worlds causes various civilisations to contact each other when they're outmatched in communication technologies or in a paranoid and untrustworthy state, causing a state of uncontrollable warfare and the loss of trillions of lives across the galaxy. It's a Dark Forest nightmare! Isn't that, like...much worse?"
Those questions presume that " in a ' What If ', characters and groups would act differently based on the different circumstances " is not something that can be taken as read for those whom it isn't explicitly stated for - that every single character and group needs to have their different actions explicitly stated, or it's a miss.
Is that a meaningful constraint? Would that produce stories worth reading?
Who would consume such stories - a reader, or a checklist?
It's one universe out of a transfinite number, selected by Uatu's father for the specific purpose of tormenting Uatu. Presumably, there's an uncountable number where the FF either fail in defeating Galactus or where this bright future is averted by the actions of various supervillains, but showing Uatu those wouldn't hurt him.
"In this world the Fantastic Four became beloved enough that Doom realized attacking them, would unite the entire world against himself and his beloved Latveria. He could not act then and eventually found he never safely could. As for the other threats, as Reed Richards says, there was a great deal of devastation that occurred. Some of the threats they would face died in that. In addition, the fact that the Fantastic Four acted with so little aid here inspired the other hero groups to work closer together and they unified heroes acted more efficiently."
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OK...and then what happened?
"Nope. He fell down and went BOOM!"
"And the Skrulls? They just left Earth alone after that for no real reason?"
"Also fell down and went BOOM!"
"and what about the Mad Thinker? Or Magneto or-"
"FELL. DOWN. WENT. BOOM."
Really, that's the problem with this lazy half-assed approach.
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Or the other heroes being more eager to help the FF, or to join the for a time. Or the Skrulls being scared shitless because those earthians just freaking killed Galactus .
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I guess most writers either don't know or choose to ignore that universal balance or Abraxas thingy for the main continuity, and even more for alternate universes.
Or one could no-price that the 8th (post Secret Wars) universe doesn't have the exact same rules as the 7th. Especially if Reed had something to say about it.
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Didn’t know Galactus had been killed or de-powered for extended periods. My main exposure to him has been Byrne’s FF.
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THE RECKONING!!!
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*wet fart noise*
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The story is about aliens! With shooty lasers!
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He was also depowered during the Waid/Wieringo run on FF, but that was a short-lived situation.
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"Wait...dad...in this world, the lack of a cosmic predator thinning out worlds causes various civilisations to contact each other when they're outmatched in communication technologies or in a paranoid and untrustworthy state, causing a state of uncontrollable warfare and the loss of trillions of lives across the galaxy. It's a Dark Forest nightmare! Isn't that, like...much worse?"
"...but clean energy, tho."
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Is that a meaningful constraint? Would that produce stories worth reading?
Who would consume such stories - a reader, or a checklist?
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"In this world the Fantastic Four became beloved enough that Doom realized attacking them, would unite the entire world against himself and his beloved Latveria. He could not act then and eventually found he never safely could. As for the other threats, as Reed Richards says, there was a great deal of devastation that occurred. Some of the threats they would face died in that. In addition, the fact that the Fantastic Four acted with so little aid here inspired the other hero groups to work closer together and they unified heroes acted more efficiently."
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