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Spidey and MJ Save The World (Amazing Spider-Man #672 spoilers)
Ever since "One More Day," it seems like Marvel has done everything they can to diminish Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson as a couple, and not just in ret-conning their previous marital status and giving Peter various other love interests to pursue. But then along comes the finale to "Spider-Island" to suddenly remind us why fans loved these two as a couple in the first place.
First of all, we get an explanation as to why MJ seemed to be the last one in New York to develop Spider-powers:

So...yeah. Peter's fear that he may have given Carlie a "Spidey Transmitted Disease" as a result of "sharing a toothbrush" (among other things) back in Amazing Spider-Man #667? Turns out it he had the right idea, albeit a different girl with different results.
Anyway, Spidey and his clone Kaine team-up against The Queen (who now has transformed into a giant 28-story half-woman, half-spider creature) only for the Queen to swat Spidey away like...well, a bug. And who comes in for the save?

Spidey's plan? To use Doc Ock's miniature octo-bots (the one's from Amazing Spider-Man #600) to administer the Anti-Venom cure to all those infected with the "Spider-Island virus." So he and MJ go up to the Empire State Building to better broadcast the signal, leading to this moment:

Due to everyone being cured, the Queen is weakened, allowing Kaine to deliver the killing blow. The day is saved, and what do Peter and MJ do the celebrate? They snuggle!

And if that weren't enough, Peter seems to have completely forgotten all about Carlie Cooper. You know, the woman who is supposed to be his actual girlfriend? :-P
Okay, maybe this doesn't necessarily mean Peter and MJ will get back together again right away, but it sure seems things are moving in that direction, do they not?
First of all, we get an explanation as to why MJ seemed to be the last one in New York to develop Spider-powers:

So...yeah. Peter's fear that he may have given Carlie a "Spidey Transmitted Disease" as a result of "sharing a toothbrush" (among other things) back in Amazing Spider-Man #667? Turns out it he had the right idea, albeit a different girl with different results.
Anyway, Spidey and his clone Kaine team-up against The Queen (who now has transformed into a giant 28-story half-woman, half-spider creature) only for the Queen to swat Spidey away like...well, a bug. And who comes in for the save?

Spidey's plan? To use Doc Ock's miniature octo-bots (the one's from Amazing Spider-Man #600) to administer the Anti-Venom cure to all those infected with the "Spider-Island virus." So he and MJ go up to the Empire State Building to better broadcast the signal, leading to this moment:

Due to everyone being cured, the Queen is weakened, allowing Kaine to deliver the killing blow. The day is saved, and what do Peter and MJ do the celebrate? They snuggle!

And if that weren't enough, Peter seems to have completely forgotten all about Carlie Cooper. You know, the woman who is supposed to be his actual girlfriend? :-P
Okay, maybe this doesn't necessarily mean Peter and MJ will get back together again right away, but it sure seems things are moving in that direction, do they not?
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http://i.newsarama.com/images/asm1999673_int_lr_0001.jpg
god its hilarious... all the aritrary things that stay... bionic arm... Headband, beard loss :D
also LOVE hercules being all "AH nakedness! i LOVE nakedness!" also notice he said PEOPLE, not WOmen :D
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Yep. :-D
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Unless it's so we know it's her. Pfft.
Actually..
I guess that's what writers call, 'hanging a lampshade on it..'
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I know she will probably lose the powers... but i REALLY want her to keep them... and i REALLY want her to be the new Scarlet Spider, and keep it from Peter.... she really did kick ass as a Hero and it feels like SUCH a tease if they take that from her...
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Who's the love interest now?
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But I think be keeping secrets from Carlie and "holding her back" when she had spidey-powers Carlie will dump Pete.
And then the universe begins to right itself....
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Or Felicia becomes Daredevil's.
But yeah, I get the feeling Peter and Carlie are going to break-up in the upcoming issue. And in hindsight, there's been quite a few indications things have been heading in that direction for some time.
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Nothing short of a complete creative overhaul and restoration of the former status quo is going to bring back all the falling readers. But Steve Wacker and co. have been stubborn in saying that the marriage won't be coming back, and if they readership starts to fall, they'll just find different ways to boost readership.
Word on the street is that it was none other than Bendis who said to them that the only way they'll get those readers back is by restoring the Spider-Marriage, this was years ago so it looks like it fell on deaf ears.
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It's almost a Hal Jordan situation IMO. By the time Green Lantern:Rebirth came around the only person of the old guard from the 90s who had been involved with the destruction of Hal and the creation of Emerald Twilight from the DC Brass/Editorial was Paul Levitz (who was soon retired) and Mike Carlin (who was phased out of DC not long after). Everyone else (Denny O'Neil, Kevin Dooley and the late Archie Goodwin) were gone and Didio and Johns who grew up with Hal brought him back.
That's probably what's going to end up happening with Peter/MJ. When the next generational shift happens at Marvel we'll see some changes (or possibly a reboot).
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After OMD and BND and everything Joe Q, Wacker, Slott and others have said to fans who have complained I'm going to go that this (Peter/MJ) is a fake-out.
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I think I would have really enjoyed this story..
Shame..As otherwiise it would have been the first half decent cross-over in ages!
P.S Is it just me, or did Peter's crowning moment of glory here, remind anyone else of that Christopher Eccleston Doctor Who episode where he shouts out, "Just this once...Everybody lives!"
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Re: I think I would have really enjoyed this story..
Wish we could have had a little bit more of the 9th Doctor. I was just beginning to really like him, when of course it became time for him to go! :(
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///// Yeah I'm being optimistic, so sue me.
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Thematically this "event" is actually a very personal story examining the relationship between Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson. The last issue and these scans in particular really drive this story as being a deeply personal one.
Is it a massive "ship tease?" Absolutely. Will they get back together? Not right now. But comics being what they are, they will eventually get back together.
(And they'll break up later and then get back together.)
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You're welcome. :-)
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Twas a prequel to Spider-Girl/MC2 supposedly.
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But yeah, the way Peter just forgot about Carlie is bizarre and out of character. This is Peter Parker we're talking about; if he doesn't have time to worry about the people he loves, he's worrying about not having time to worry.
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Which as it turns out are the parts that are exactly the same as during-marriage Spidey romance.
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Shame that dash of wistfulness makes the whole thing taste like shit.
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That way we can have our cake but the cake isn't constantly saying how great Carlie Cooper is for Peter.
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We've had issue after issue after issue of people telling us about how great Carlie is and how she's the perfect person for Peter, but it's all easily and effortlessly overshadowed by just that last panel.
Carlie is missing consistency as a character. More importantly, she's missing the organic part of character development where she is actually presented as a realistic, interesting, and likable character rather than just a composite that the creative team thought fans would find cool because they are for some reason desperate to shill this character.
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