So Bruce gets a hand chopped off, replaces it with a robot hand made by his alternate future self, then replaces that with a hand from a clone created by his evil backup personality inhabiting an unstoppable robot. Comics, y’all!
Though I like the idea of Bruce and the family all living together as they star in the new series, Flip This Batmansion.
Oh and Gotham’s Police Commissioner is now a 30,000 year old immortal caveman. Comics!!!
Yes. Vandal Savage become Gotham's new police commissioner, with the backing of a secret society interested in controlling the city. The Court of Owls, a secret order dedicated to controlling Gotham, is likely behind Savage's rise to power in the Gotham police force.
There's an unposted bit in which an equally fantastic solution for dealing with clone Bruce's physical body is brought up and turned down on the grounds that it basically wouldn't feel right.
From that, you can extrapolate enough to rebut similar nitpicky " Why wasn't this story undercut with a simplistic application of the shared universe? " questions.
Well, at least some reason was given. It really doesn't take much to accommodate for a shared universe, but sometimes it seems like it's a case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. Sure, we have a shared universe but we don't acknowledge it.
He suggests earlier in the thread that the best way to read seeming " failures " to exploit shared universe solutions is to assume " they tried and it didn't work ". That is genuinely one of the best ways - you're already taking as a given that the character is capable of and motivated to get the thing they want, so of course they would've tried that means to their end. The fact that they're still trying clearly means it didn't work, and that they're just getting on with it.
It's either that, or you assume " it didn't occur to them in the heat of the moment ", which also makes sense - because to accept the premise of any story is to accept that you're reading about imperfect beings in dynamic situations. There is nothing that inherently prevents people in real life from acting " sub-optimally ", whatever their understood capabilities and capacities - there's correspondingly nothing for fictional people, who are ultimately the products of real people.
To take any other approach is to look at what you're already taking as given when reading and throw it out in favor of entirely subjective points about story construction. There's nothing inherently wrong with those points, but with regards to the story as-is, they only mean as much as the statement " A is not B. " does.
I'm never a fan of disposable clones as story telling tools.
But the thing that really bugs me is I keep wondering why the hell Batman's new hand doesn't just keep aging super fast once it's attached to him. I mean if the accelerated aging is actually a fault built into the very cells of it then it should keep aging faster.
Knee Jerk even in the sillist comics DNA shouldn't work that way and anything that did fix it should have been able to fix Clone Bruce.
Look I get it, it's meant to be poignant and sad while fixing Bruce's robot hand issue in a comic hand wavy sense but it still strike me as incredibly annoying but then again I feel that way about a lot of comic stories so I'm used to it.
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Though I like the idea of Bruce and the family all living together as they star in the new series, Flip This Batmansion.
Oh and Gotham’s Police Commissioner is now a 30,000 year old immortal caveman. Comics!!!
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From that, you can extrapolate enough to rebut similar nitpicky " Why wasn't this story undercut with a simplistic application of the shared universe? " questions.
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He suggests earlier in the thread that the best way to read seeming " failures " to exploit shared universe solutions is to assume " they tried and it didn't work ". That is genuinely one of the best ways - you're already taking as a given that the character is capable of and motivated to get the thing they want, so of course they would've tried that means to their end. The fact that they're still trying clearly means it didn't work, and that they're just getting on with it.
It's either that, or you assume " it didn't occur to them in the heat of the moment ", which also makes sense - because to accept the premise of any story is to accept that you're reading about imperfect beings in dynamic situations. There is nothing that inherently prevents people in real life from acting " sub-optimally ", whatever their understood capabilities and capacities - there's correspondingly nothing for fictional people, who are ultimately the products of real people.
To take any other approach is to look at what you're already taking as given when reading and throw it out in favor of entirely subjective points about story construction. There's nothing inherently wrong with those points, but with regards to the story as-is, they only mean as much as the statement " A is not B. " does.
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But the thing that really bugs me is I keep wondering why the hell Batman's new hand doesn't just keep aging super fast once it's attached to him. I mean if the accelerated aging is actually a fault built into the very cells of it then it should keep aging faster.
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I mean, that said, it could have gone the other way, and the hand would make him age faster, so I guess he got lucky?
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I'd kinda want to see that.
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Look I get it, it's meant to be poignant and sad while fixing Bruce's robot hand issue in a comic hand wavy sense but it still strike me as incredibly annoying but then again I feel that way about a lot of comic stories so I'm used to it.