There's an unposted bit in which an equally fantastic solution for dealing with clone Bruce's physical body is brought up and turned down on the grounds that it basically wouldn't feel right.
From that, you can extrapolate enough to rebut similar nitpicky " Why wasn't this story undercut with a simplistic application of the shared universe? " questions.
Well, at least some reason was given. It really doesn't take much to accommodate for a shared universe, but sometimes it seems like it's a case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. Sure, we have a shared universe but we don't acknowledge it.
He suggests earlier in the thread that the best way to read seeming " failures " to exploit shared universe solutions is to assume " they tried and it didn't work ". That is genuinely one of the best ways - you're already taking as a given that the character is capable of and motivated to get the thing they want, so of course they would've tried that means to their end. The fact that they're still trying clearly means it didn't work, and that they're just getting on with it.
It's either that, or you assume " it didn't occur to them in the heat of the moment ", which also makes sense - because to accept the premise of any story is to accept that you're reading about imperfect beings in dynamic situations. There is nothing that inherently prevents people in real life from acting " sub-optimally ", whatever their understood capabilities and capacities - there's correspondingly nothing for fictional people, who are ultimately the products of real people.
To take any other approach is to look at what you're already taking as given when reading and throw it out in favor of entirely subjective points about story construction. There's nothing inherently wrong with those points, but with regards to the story as-is, they only mean as much as the statement " A is not B. " does.
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Date: 2024-06-19 05:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-06-19 06:33 pm (UTC)From that, you can extrapolate enough to rebut similar nitpicky " Why wasn't this story undercut with a simplistic application of the shared universe? " questions.
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Date: 2024-06-20 12:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-06-20 04:59 pm (UTC)He suggests earlier in the thread that the best way to read seeming " failures " to exploit shared universe solutions is to assume " they tried and it didn't work ". That is genuinely one of the best ways - you're already taking as a given that the character is capable of and motivated to get the thing they want, so of course they would've tried that means to their end. The fact that they're still trying clearly means it didn't work, and that they're just getting on with it.
It's either that, or you assume " it didn't occur to them in the heat of the moment ", which also makes sense - because to accept the premise of any story is to accept that you're reading about imperfect beings in dynamic situations. There is nothing that inherently prevents people in real life from acting " sub-optimally ", whatever their understood capabilities and capacities - there's correspondingly nothing for fictional people, who are ultimately the products of real people.
To take any other approach is to look at what you're already taking as given when reading and throw it out in favor of entirely subjective points about story construction. There's nothing inherently wrong with those points, but with regards to the story as-is, they only mean as much as the statement " A is not B. " does.