From Amazing Spider-Man #658...aka Spidey's Fashion Faux Pas

[stillanerd]

As folks may already know, Spider-Man has become the newest member of the Fantastic Four...oh, excuse me, The Future Foundation...as seen in Jonathan Hickman and Steve Epting's Fantastic Four relaunch series simply titled FF. Well, this was bound to crossover into Amazing Spider-Man currently written by Dan Slott. So, after Peter gets the call from the FF and goes to retrieve his costume (as shown in the preview for this issue) we get see that, upon Spidey's arrival at the Baxter Building, things don't go particularly well:







Now as you can probably surmise, I have a little bit of nitpick with this scene.  

1.  For the first two points, I direct you folks to this exchange between Spidey and Susan Richards from FF#1:




So, since we clearly see that Sue already told Spidey the reason for why they were wearing different costumes other than the traditional Fantastic Four ones, why then would Spidey go ahead and have a variation of the Fantastic Four costume made for him knowing full well why the surviving members of the Fantastic Four decided they weren't wearing them anymore after Johnny's death?

2. While it makes for a nice in-joke about how Spidey's FF costume makes him look like Anti-Venom, we clearly see that the new FF costumes are made of "third-generation unstable molecules" that allows the wearer to alter the color variations. So why doesn't Spidey simply do that if he's got a problem with how the costume looks?

3. Why would Spidey even leave his new FF suit at the Baxter Building anyway, considering how the beginning of this issue reminds us that he has his own storage locker at Horizon Labs where he keeps all of his costumes that only he can access? I guess we're supposed to conclude that he forgot it. But wait a minute, even if someone hadn't read FF #1, shouldn't this also inform them that Spidey already knows the FF have new costumes?

4. And finally, as shown in the previous scene where his date with Carlie gets interrupted in the very beginning of this issue, Peter narrates about how the Fantastic Four have renamed themselves the Future Foundation. So then why is he even complaining about being "baited and switched" for being on the Future Foundation instead of the Fantastic Four if he already knows the Fantastic Four are now calling themselves the Future Foundation as well as the fact they're sporting wearing new uniforms?

I know, I know, I'm sounding like an anal-retentive fanboy here, but I just felt like I had to get this off my chest.  Especially since what appears to be deliberate cherry-picking of continuity--barely a month old, mind you--is being done just so this issue can have a prolonged three to four page gag, which in turns also makes Spidey out to be an insensitive, immature, whiny moron. 

Then again, this is NuSpidey post-OMD/BND we're talking about, isn't it?
 

Comments

[wonderwomanhero]

Gurl you need a cut. And fast.

[stillanerd]

Yeah, forgot to do one. Should be fixed. And I'm not a girl. :)

[darkknightjrk]

I'm going to go with "continuity fuck-up," and since FF's written better, I'm going to go with that, and discount that scene entirely.

Though it's funny that the kids were able to say in one sentence exactly what I hated about BND-Spidey this whole time.

[wonderwomanhero]

I know. I say that to everyone. ;)

[stillanerd]

Gotcha. :)

[shadowpsykie]

yeah... im just done with this....

[uadlika]

I get what you're saying about the uniform, but upon reading my biggest question is: why is the Fantastic-Car a giant hot dog?






(psst, it's "faux pas." Silly French and its silent consonants)

[stillanerd]

Hmm...good question. And thanks for correcting my French grammar (or rather, lack thereof) :)

[blackruzsa]

Faux pas, yes.

And honestly I don't want to pick this up because it feels a little dubious to me. People working on the 616 verse have absolutely no idea how to handle Spidey anymore, and he just doesn't fit into the FF no matter what they try to do.

[jcbaggee]

Yeah, Spidey just comes off as a massive tool here. He would be WAAAAY more sensitive to the situation than this.

[baxter2814]

....you just reminded me of that '90s arc where the FF were supposedly dead and Spidey, Wolverine, Hulk and Ghost Rider took their place out of respect and failed on a hilariously epic level.

Man I miss old-school Marvel. I can't believe there was actually a time where it seemed that everything Marvel put out was more fun than DC.

[blackruzsa]

Pfft, really?
Oh, you were serious. Darn it, Marvel, SOMETHING HAPPY FOR ONCE, PLEASE! Even the tv shows they release are depressing.

[domino_blue]

I was actually in discussion with my friend about about how time travel works in Marvel(for the most part) in that changing the past only creates a alternate timeline...this is the only way I can think of spidey now.

[domino_blue]

Actually if I was going to put Spidey on a super team my first choice would be the FF over the Avengers....he has a huge connection with them, and they actually respect him...

[mullon]

Why is it that whenever I see parts of Spiderman comics Spiderman is not written well, but I keep hearing that these are the best Spiderman stories that have been written in years?

[domino_blue]

Oh quite simple they haven't read a Spidey Story in 20 years...I can name at least 20 stories from the past 20 years I like better then OMD.

[jaybee3]

I can't help noticing how tiny Valeria is here to how she's almost Franklin-size in FF. That's probably the one thing this comic has over the (superiorly written) FF one. Val's supposed to be 4 or 5 (kindergarten size) child not a tween.

[cyberghostface]

Yeah, Spidey just comes off as a massive tool here.

What else is new?

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Hmm, there any scans of that? I could go for some deliberate epic fail after this inadvertent one.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

[lbd_nytetrayn]

I don't think this is being anal-retentive, it's Marvel being stupid as ever.

Seriously, this is why I don't even bother.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

[big_daddy_d]

....Wow... and people wonder why there's NuSpidey hate..this is why. I stand by my opinion about my love for the FF uniforms, but seeing this..even I felt like it was just..just the fact that he showed up so excited to join, just didn't feel right at all.

[mrstatham]

What a load of shit. I can understand Slott wanting to write his own version of Spidey joining the Fantastic Four, but you'd at least think he would've actually read the three best-selling Marvel books of the past three months to get the fucking tone down.

Spidey turns up at the FF place with a bright and chirpy attitude in a costume resembling his old buddy's - Who Slott knows is dead and would have an impact on Pete, didn't he even write a short story for it? - and expects the new FF to be fine and dandy. What the Hell is Slott thinking?

[baxter2814]

If my distant memory serves me correctly, the fail was largely due to the fact that they were so ridiculously dysfunctional they made the FF look like the frickin' Cleavers. And Ghost Rider was being batshit insane and stuff.

[baxter2814]

Yeah, that's just herodickery on a massive scale. Like, just, WHAT. Personally I'm surprised Ben, Reed, and Sue didn't jump up screaming obscenities and pound Peter through the floor all at once for a stunt like that.

[magus_69]

If Slott had made it about Peter wanting to honour Johnny by adopting a variant costume and deliberately putting on a happy-go-lucky attitude (like Johnny would have), it would have worked. It would have still been a bad misstep, but I think that the others would have understood the intent.

[cypherfdp]

THE ADVENTURES OF DOUCHEBAG SPIDEY

[halloweenjack]

Continuous, almost compulsive boosterism from fans who are very good at denial.

[halloweenjack]

It's the substitution of "The Parker Fuck-Up" for "The Parker Luck."

[baxter2814]

That would actually have been pretty sweet and poignant. Kind of a "thanks for trying pal, but you can't just replace him that easily" kind of moments for both Peter and the FF.

[schala_kid]

IMO I think he fits more in the FF than the Avengers, he's very closely tied to the FF and has a more family dynamic with them. He geeks out with Reed, jokes around with Ben and Johnny, has heart to heart talks with Sue (and also jokes with her too).

Although I have to say the era were he was living in Avengers Tower with MJ and Aunt May was probably one of my favorite Spidey/Avenger moments (if only for Jarvis/May and Pete and MJ having training sessions with Steve).

[schala_kid]

The only good Spidey characterization you will find right now is Ultimate Spidey and every other story outside his title.

[kirke_novak]

I see Peter inhaled some Irondickery spores while he was hanging around him in Civil War. Just wait for him wanting to bury Torch in Latvernia.

[icon_uk]

IIRC They made the Frightful Four look like the frickin' Cleavers.

[turtlefu]

This is not nitpicky. This is poor communication between writers and editors who should otherwise be communicating. It's very unprofessional.

[valtyr]

gurl is the new dude, y/y?

[zukahnaut]

http://classic-icon.com/spiderman/1%20(27).jpg

[baxter2814]

Ouch! But not a lie! Just the painful truth. Reminds me of that manip with Spidey and Clark and Lois's wedding.

[roguefankc]

Maybe Quesada paid them to say that.

[thanekos]

Oh, I get it, he thought he was joining Jay Pinkerton's FF.

Quite understandable.

[nickfury90]

So....I'm the only one who sees a male genitalia when Ben Grimm is holding up Peter's new outfit, huh?

[fifthie]

[fifthie]

I choose to interpret this as ASM once again portraying the bubble-reality in which the douchey, unmarried alternate version of Spidey exists, while FF depicts what the actual Spider-Man is getting up to in the actual 616.