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[personal profile] starwolf_oakley 2018-08-26 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Genosha isn't the best concept. Aside from "mutants brainwashed into willing slavery is bad." Genosha was usually a "metaphor of the moment," with it being Bosnia in "Bloodlines" and then becoming "mutant Israel" once Magneto took it over.
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[personal profile] katefan 2018-08-26 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Very true, all of it.

[personal profile] tcampbell1000 2018-08-26 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
As a concept, I feel like Genosha's fascinating. Of course different countries would respond differently to "the mutant question," and some of them might even be defined by it. But you need a solid interest in economics, politics, demographics, culture, and all the other things that make up a nation to follow that up, and that is something Marvel writers have rarely taken time to do.

Plus, that "metaphor of the moment" problem has always been a little bit of the problem with the X-Men (they are every marginalized group in humanity and none of them, all at once), so it's not too surprising Genosha would end up echoing it.
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[personal profile] zylly 2018-08-27 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Your "different countries would react differently" thing reminds me of Excalibur, up until Warren Ellis took over, where its basic answer to the mutant issue was "did they save the country? Yes? Then no one cares that they're mutants."
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2018-08-27 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Warren Ellis continued that trend I feel, to the extent of the scene where Brian and Meggan watch the post-Onslaught mourning for the Avengers, FF, et al on TV, and muse that the hysterical reaction in the States is unlike anything that the British would have for their heroes.

Superhumans of any sort have never been the polarising force they are in the States, so whilst they've never been as adored as the Avengers, they've never been as hated as the X-Men, and they're quite happy with that.

(It was a touch ironic that that discussion camejust a year before the media-hyped furore over the death of Diana, Princess of Wales)
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[personal profile] zylly 2018-08-27 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I may be mis-remembering; I didn't read too much of that era, so I'm glad to see it sounds like I was exaggerating it a bit.