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scans_daily2018-08-25 02:10 pm
history79) wrote in scans_daily2018-08-25 02:10 pm
I wonder if this is when they realized that Jean's late stage X-Factor costume made her look too much like Firestar. The introduction of the 90s costume is just over the horizon after this issue.
I read Psylocke's line as "Hullo Twink", because I am a Bad Person
Well, that's just silly. Brian is way too beefy to be a twink. Maybe a bear or a daddy?
Ororo - "I wonder if our plan to fake our own deaths and hide in Australia was a bad Idea?"
Scott - "Well, as you left the New Mutants completely unprotected just after the death of one of their own, encouraging Magneto to go off the rails AND left all the old villains still running around.. if it hadn't been for the fact my plan to have X-factor pretend to be mutant hunters led to at least one teenage suicide that we know, I'd say it was the worst plan EVER!"
Scott - "Well, as you left the New Mutants completely unprotected just after the death of one of their own, encouraging Magneto to go off the rails AND left all the old villains still running around.. if it hadn't been for the fact my plan to have X-factor pretend to be mutant hunters led to at least one teenage suicide that we know, I'd say it was the worst plan EVER!"
"I want my own colors back."
Yeah, poor Jubilee, having to wear that yellow and blue number, instead of her big yellow coat and bright blue shorts.
I can see her complaining about it, but the colour really shouldn't be the sticking point.
Yeah, poor Jubilee, having to wear that yellow and blue number, instead of her big yellow coat and bright blue shorts.
I can see her complaining about it, but the colour really shouldn't be the sticking point.
Yes, not the best plan Claremont. I mean Storm.
But X-Factor and New Mutants were so badly written at that point! I'd want to stay far away, too.
Also, jesus, Storm "the farthest reaches of the Earth"? You had a teleporter and there are places farther than Australia, you know. And less hospitable.
Also, jesus, Storm "the farthest reaches of the Earth"? You had a teleporter and there are places farther than Australia, you know. And less hospitable.
Edited 2018-08-25 22:18 (UTC)
I mean it's not like Illyana could come to any harm by losing contact with her best friend (who is stuck a medlab in Scotland), a close team-mate who tended to act as moral compass dying pointlessly AND her beloved big brother apparently dying live on television.
I mean what could possibly go wrong with a conflicted demon sorceress who was raised in a hell dimension feeling emotionally abandoned?
I mean what could possibly go wrong with a conflicted demon sorceress who was raised in a hell dimension feeling emotionally abandoned?
Honestly that was the beginning of the end for me where the X-Men were concerned. I also didn't like how every X-Man's power was malfunctioning because Claremont seemed to think what the team needed was even more angst. I hated the concept of Genosha, hated how Havok hooked up with Madeline, hated how before that Cyclops completely abandoned his wife. God how I utterly hated this entire era for turning characters I liked into complete bastards.
Oh, and I hated how aliens invaded the Earth, ones that liked to implant eggs into super powered people, and the X-Men didn't see fit to warn the Fantastic Four or Avengers. The Brood invading Earth could have actually been a really good crossover event but it seemed Claremont didn't want people playing in his sandbox.
Oh, and I hated how aliens invaded the Earth, ones that liked to implant eggs into super powered people, and the X-Men didn't see fit to warn the Fantastic Four or Avengers. The Brood invading Earth could have actually been a really good crossover event but it seemed Claremont didn't want people playing in his sandbox.
While I think it eventually recovered, I do agree and generally consider the nadir of Uncanny to be pretty much everything from the Mutant Massacre to the end of the Muir Island Saga. There's just so much crap and bad decisions going on during this period.
And I could go on for days about how the decision to bring Jean back and poor writing in response to it damaged Cyclops as a character to the point where I'm not sure he ever recovered (it's why I love teen!Scott so much).
From what I understand and have pieced together in various interviews, it's always sounded like there was a lot of friction between Claremont and the rest of the writers/editors. I've often wondered if some of the powers that be weren't mad that an upstart title like X-Men was eclipsing what they thought "should" have been the flagship titles like Spider-Man, Avengers, and FF.
And I could go on for days about how the decision to bring Jean back and poor writing in response to it damaged Cyclops as a character to the point where I'm not sure he ever recovered (it's why I love teen!Scott so much).
From what I understand and have pieced together in various interviews, it's always sounded like there was a lot of friction between Claremont and the rest of the writers/editors. I've often wondered if some of the powers that be weren't mad that an upstart title like X-Men was eclipsing what they thought "should" have been the flagship titles like Spider-Man, Avengers, and FF.
Genosha isn't the best concept. Aside from "mutants brainwashed into willing slavery is bad." Genosha was usually a "metaphor of the moment," with it being Bosnia in "Bloodlines" and then becoming "mutant Israel" once Magneto took it over.
Where was "Wolverine isn't at 100%" supposed to go? Has Claremont ever said?
Oh absolutely, Scott's character never recovered from abandoning the wife who looked just like his old girlfriend to be with his old girlfriend. And it just kept getting worse, with him cheating on Jean with Emma.
I can imagine jealousy naturally occurring but I think it had more to do with Claremont's success rather than the tools in which he used. Too perhaps he had a lot more creative freedom than other writers did. From what I understand each editor/writer relationship is different, which I guess is why Mark Waid's run on X-Men was what I heard unremarkable because he was operating under a lot of editorial mandates. I'm sorry I don't have any links to confirm that, just what a friend told me after listening to some blogs.
Maybe the whole exile to Australia thing was Claremont unconsciously exiling himself from the rest of the MU, distancing himself from men and women he didn't know how to collaborate with. I heard his split with John Byrne had been nasty, maybe that soured him on the very thought of collaboration with others.
I can imagine jealousy naturally occurring but I think it had more to do with Claremont's success rather than the tools in which he used. Too perhaps he had a lot more creative freedom than other writers did. From what I understand each editor/writer relationship is different, which I guess is why Mark Waid's run on X-Men was what I heard unremarkable because he was operating under a lot of editorial mandates. I'm sorry I don't have any links to confirm that, just what a friend told me after listening to some blogs.
Maybe the whole exile to Australia thing was Claremont unconsciously exiling himself from the rest of the MU, distancing himself from men and women he didn't know how to collaborate with. I heard his split with John Byrne had been nasty, maybe that soured him on the very thought of collaboration with others.
This was followed by the "tentacoo hugs for everyone!" story, wasn't it?
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